{"podcast":{"title":"The Panel","slug":"the-panel-7164233","podcast_index_feed_id":7164233,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/the-panel","website_url":"https://panelpodcast.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/yWTY-CXNtG83hTvs8v6jtRWX3yJm2opOPvMUwx-AwN4/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mMDAy/MzY0MGUzMTllNDU5/YTBkM2E5ZmEyZTIx/MjdiZC5wbmc.jpg","author":"Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, Jordan Gal","episode_count":55,"summary":"When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-01T10:21:21.241827+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233"},"episode":{"title":"The money tunnel","slug":"the-money-tunnel","published_at":"2026-03-14T14:47:47+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233/the-money-tunnel","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233","url":"https://panelpodcast.com/37","audio_url":"https://op3.dev/e/media.transistor.fm/2d2b119a/a3d63013.mp3","summary":"Brian, Justin, and Jordan talk about the opportunity costs in business decision-making, the impact of AI on marketing channels and strategies, and building custom internal tools with AI versus SaaS solutions. Timestamps: (00:44) - Brian takes the lead (02:17) - Opportunity costs (17:29) - What is Brian's opportunity on Twitter? (21:41) - Figuring out what Builder Methods is and who it's for (24:53) - Should Brian hire someone to help achieve his goal? (28:47) - How is AI killing Saas (39:54) - People will want their own agent to use the softare, not a company's AI (51:07) - Jordan's CRM experiment YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links: Builder Methods Pro Brian's YouTube","meta_description":"Brian, Justin, and Jordan talk about the opportunity costs in business decision-making, the impact of AI on marketing channels and strategies, and buildin…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3343,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-panel-7164233/episodes/the-money-tunnel/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233/the-money-tunnel.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}