{"podcast":{"title":"The Panel","slug":"the-panel-7164233","podcast_index_feed_id":7164233,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/the-panel","website_url":"https://panelpodcast.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/yWTY-CXNtG83hTvs8v6jtRWX3yJm2opOPvMUwx-AwN4/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mMDAy/MzY0MGUzMTllNDU5/YTBkM2E5ZmEyZTIx/MjdiZC5wbmc.jpg","author":"Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, Jordan Gal","episode_count":55,"summary":"When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-01T10:21:21.241827+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233"},"episode":{"title":"I spend money. People see the product. They buy. We grow.","slug":"i-spend-money-people-see-the-product-they-buy-we-grow","published_at":"2026-05-29T21:57:51+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233/i-spend-money-people-see-the-product-they-buy-we-grow","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233","url":"https://panelpodcast.com/48","audio_url":"https://op3.dev/e/media.transistor.fm/05696c00/e5395202.mp3","summary":"After figuring out how to stay in shape with exercise, Jordan and Brian wrestle with what each other's north star should be in their day to day work. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:19 Peptides and Supplements 08:06 Gym vs Home Workouts 14:02 Daily Walking 17:01 Brian's Calorie Tracking 21:40 The Importance of Optimization 24:27 Jordan's Ad Spend Thoughts 29:08 SEO and Email Marketing Automation 33:58 Brian's trying to leverage AI to limit bottlenecks 53:23 Balancing Urgency and Ambition 55:52 Connecting Daily Tasks to Long-Term Goals 01:03:29 Navigating Multiple North Stars YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode: Lose It! - Weight Loss That Fits HeyRosy.com Builder Methods Claude AI Hermes Agent Platform","meta_description":"After figuring out how to stay in shape with exercise, Jordan and Brian wrestle with what each other's north star should be in their day to day work. Time…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4258,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-panel-7164233/episodes/i-spend-money-people-see-the-product-they-buy-we-grow/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233/i-spend-money-people-see-the-product-they-buy-we-grow.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}