{"podcast":{"title":"The Panel","slug":"the-panel-7164233","podcast_index_feed_id":7164233,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/the-panel","website_url":"https://panelpodcast.com/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/yWTY-CXNtG83hTvs8v6jtRWX3yJm2opOPvMUwx-AwN4/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9mMDAy/MzY0MGUzMTllNDU5/YTBkM2E5ZmEyZTIx/MjdiZC5wbmc.jpg","author":"Justin Jackson, Brian Casel, Jordan Gal","episode_count":55,"summary":"When it comes to bootstrapping and building software, there's rarely one right answer. We want to dive into the nuance. In every episode, veteran founders Justin Jackson, Brian Casel and Jordan Gal tackle thorny topics – from pricing and product strategy to work-life balance. No gurus, no easy answers – just real conversations we'd normally have behind closed doors.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-01T10:21:21.241827+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233"},"episode":{"title":"Going Back to Grade 12","slug":"going-back-to-grade-12","published_at":"2025-10-24T17:53:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233/going-back-to-grade-12","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233","url":"https://panelpodcast.com/24","audio_url":"https://op3.dev/e/media.transistor.fm/f5036e90/8b193461.mp3","summary":"Justin spoke to a grade 12 class about entrepreneurship, and was surprised by what he learned about teenagers. Brian has thoughts on the impact of Agent OS v2.1 and struggles with the support burden of open-source software. They talk about “Wealth is the freedom from having to monetize every idea.\" Also: Johnny Ive and Rivian founder RJ Scaringe's product design processes. Timestamps: (00:00) - Now It's Time for The Panel (01:30) - AI music creation (05:45) - Segments update (06:39) - Casel or Castle or ? (07:55) - Justin's visit to a grade 12 entrepreneur class (18:14) - What kinds of questions did the kids ask? (23:31) - Projects that generate unwanted jobs (40:25) - The relief of wealth DHH tweet (56:19) - Jonny Ive and caring about design (01:05:14) - Cheeky Pint podcast interview with Rivian founder YOU ARE THE PANEL – send us your thoughts 🗣️ 🎤 Send us an audio or video message 📧 Email us: panelpodcastshow@gmail.com 📺 Leave a comment on YouTube 🦋 Reply on Bluesky Links mentioned in this episode Suno Suno intro song for The Panel Justin’s high school talk Agent OS Builder Methods Pro Discord Tweet: “Wealth is the freedom from having to monetize every idea” Survey: How does Basecamp get new customers? Cheeky Pint podcast interview with Rivian founder","meta_description":"Justin spoke to a grade 12 class about entrepreneurship, and was surprised by what he learned about teenagers. Brian has thoughts on the impact of Agent O…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4811,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-panel-7164233/episodes/going-back-to-grade-12/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-panel-7164233/going-back-to-grade-12.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}