{"podcast":{"title":"The Other 22 Hours","slug":"the-other-22-hours-6074570","podcast_index_feed_id":6074570,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/25702579-c239-4f18-9846-0535a20082ac","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/the-other-22-hours","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2026/3/2/3/e404bf63-764b-485e-b856-73123a45674a_to22h_cover_art_square.jpg","author":"Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss","episode_count":157,"summary":"An exploration of the creative life, lived in the in-between. A sanctuary for the creative spirit in a results-obsessed world. Moving beyond the highlight reel, hosts and working musicians Aaron Shafer-Haiss and Michaela Anne facilitate intimate, artist-to-artist conversations with renowned musicians, authors, visual artists and actors about the grit required to sustain a life in the arts. From navigating doubt to finding stillness, this is the reality of the work. Unfiltered.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-02T00:18:22.307935+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570"},"episode":{"title":"Jim Keller on the crash and burn, ego death, and the magic of jam sessions.","slug":"jim-keller-on-the-crash-and-burn-ego-death-and-the-magic-of-jam-sessions","published_at":"2025-12-17T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/jim-keller-on-the-crash-and-burn-ego-death-and-the-magic-of-jam-sessions","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570","url":"https://www.theother22hours.com/episodes/jim-keller-jKh43ODG","audio_url":"https://audio2.redcircle.com/episodes/15f11453-eb2b-489a-a758-02b092aad452/stream.mp3","summary":"Jim Keller started in the music industry as part of Tommy Tutone, writing the hit '867-5309/Jenny', then the bands career sank and he left performing, landing as an assistant and then manager for Phillip Glass, Nico Muhly, Ravi Shankar, and others, before 'retiring' and returning to making music by hosting jam sessions with members of The Black Crowes, Levon Helm's band, The Beach Boys, The Wallflowers, The Lumineers, and more. We talk to Jim about the realities of 'crashing and burning', the business and creative divide, the power of honesty, knowing your role, showing up, and a whole lot more.","meta_description":"Jim Keller started in the music industry as part of Tommy Tutone, writing the hit '867-5309/Jenny', then the bands career sank and he left performing, lan…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3129,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-other-22-hours-6074570/episodes/jim-keller-on-the-crash-and-burn-ego-death-and-the-magic-of-jam-sessions/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/jim-keller-on-the-crash-and-burn-ego-death-and-the-magic-of-jam-sessions.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}