{"podcast":{"title":"The Other 22 Hours","slug":"the-other-22-hours-6074570","podcast_index_feed_id":6074570,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/25702579-c239-4f18-9846-0535a20082ac","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/the-other-22-hours","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2026/3/2/3/e404bf63-764b-485e-b856-73123a45674a_to22h_cover_art_square.jpg","author":"Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss","episode_count":157,"summary":"An exploration of the creative life, lived in the in-between. A sanctuary for the creative spirit in a results-obsessed world. Moving beyond the highlight reel, hosts and working musicians Aaron Shafer-Haiss and Michaela Anne facilitate intimate, artist-to-artist conversations with renowned musicians, authors, visual artists and actors about the grit required to sustain a life in the arts. From navigating doubt to finding stillness, this is the reality of the work. Unfiltered.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-02T00:18:22.307935+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570"},"episode":{"title":"Heather Mae on social justice songwriting, the hedonic treadmill, and hearing god during a massage.","slug":"heather-mae-on-social-justice-songwriting-the-hedonic-treadmill-and-hearing-god-during-a-massage","published_at":"2026-06-10T11:00:36+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/heather-mae-on-social-justice-songwriting-the-hedonic-treadmill-and-hearing-god-during-a-massage","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570","url":"https://www.theother22hours.com","audio_url":"https://audio2.redcircle.com/episodes/c2f19c14-9b68-4471-bb1e-06802d7c5248/stream.mp3","summary":"We often look at an artist's career through the lens of industry accolades: the tours, the streaming numbers, the awards. But what happens when you intentionally dismantle your creative ego to build something focused entirely on collective liberation? Heather Mae is an award-winning independent artist, the founder of Singing Resistance Nashville, and a prominent voice in organized musical activism. Following a viral arrest at the Tennessee Capitol while protesting anti-trans legislation, Heather sits down with us to discuss the profound impacts of communal singing, navigating trauma as a neurodivergent and queer creator, and how to balance radical empathy without completely burning out. It’s an expansive, deeply human conversation about moving past the modern traps of artistic productivity to discover what it truly means to be of service.","meta_description":"We often look at an artist's career through the lens of industry accolades: the tours, the streaming numbers, the awards. But what happens when you intent…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3318,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-other-22-hours-6074570/episodes/heather-mae-on-social-justice-songwriting-the-hedonic-treadmill-and-hearing-god-during-a-massage/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/heather-mae-on-social-justice-songwriting-the-hedonic-treadmill-and-hearing-god-during-a-massage.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}