{"podcast":{"title":"The Other 22 Hours","slug":"the-other-22-hours-6074570","podcast_index_feed_id":6074570,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/25702579-c239-4f18-9846-0535a20082ac","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/the-other-22-hours","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2026/3/2/3/e404bf63-764b-485e-b856-73123a45674a_to22h_cover_art_square.jpg","author":"Michaela Anne, Aaron Shafer-Haiss","episode_count":157,"summary":"An exploration of the creative life, lived in the in-between. A sanctuary for the creative spirit in a results-obsessed world. Moving beyond the highlight reel, hosts and working musicians Aaron Shafer-Haiss and Michaela Anne facilitate intimate, artist-to-artist conversations with renowned musicians, authors, visual artists and actors about the grit required to sustain a life in the arts. From navigating doubt to finding stillness, this is the reality of the work. Unfiltered.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-02T00:18:22.307935+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570"},"episode":{"title":"Butch Walker on accidental careers, the ego-driven climb, and 'shut up and sing'.","slug":"butch-walker-on-accidental-careers-the-ego-driven-climb-and-shut-up-and-sing","published_at":"2026-03-04T12:00:45+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/butch-walker-on-accidental-careers-the-ego-driven-climb-and-shut-up-and-sing","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570","url":"http://www.theother22hours.com","audio_url":"https://audio2.redcircle.com/episodes/fa8229c7-0a2a-49a3-a142-df8b6613790f/stream.mp3","summary":"Butch Walker has spent decades at the summit of the music industry, producing multi-platinum records for icons like Pink, Katy Perry, and Green Day while fronting his own high-energy solo tours. Yet, despite reaching that peak, he found himself \"climbing the hill\" so intently that he had forgotten to look at the view, leading to burnout and a desire to step back. In this conversation, we explore the courage required to dismantle an ego-driven path in favor of a soul-driven one, and finding unbridled joy in the simple act of being a \"sponge\" for new inspiration. In This Episode: Butch Walker John Legend ' The Real Frank Zappa Book' Train Taylor Swift Bad Bunny Kendrick Lamar Desmond Child Go Deeper: Watch: View this entire conversation on YouTube . Explore: Find similar conversations in these themed playlists . Connect: Join the conversation on Instagram . The Hosts: The Other 22 Hours is hosted by Aaron Shafer-Haiss (Producer/Mixer) and Michaela Anne (Songwriter/Creative Coach). More about Aaron's work . More about Michaela Anne's work . Credits: Produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Original music written, performed and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss. Part of the Bluegrass Situation Podcast Network .","meta_description":"Butch Walker has spent decades at the summit of the music industry, producing multi-platinum records for icons like Pink, Katy Perry, and Green Day while…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2683,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-other-22-hours-6074570/episodes/butch-walker-on-accidental-careers-the-ego-driven-climb-and-shut-up-and-sing/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-other-22-hours-6074570/butch-walker-on-accidental-careers-the-ego-driven-climb-and-shut-up-and-sing.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}