{"podcast":{"title":"The New Music Business with Ari Herstand","slug":"the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039","podcast_index_feed_id":744039,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/6b22dabf-b9be-45c2-bddb-1483c14ab221","website_url":"https://www.aristake.com","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/614da10f772a06733661598c/1659202057312-f105d523ac15bf7f40e73f2d40a9c4d1.jpeg","author":"Ari's Take","episode_count":234,"summary":"**WEBBY AWARD FOR BEST MUSIC PODCAST** “#1 music industry podcast to help keep you in the loop” -Spotify “The 10 Best Music Business Podcasts of 2022\" – Variety Ari Herstand is the best-selling author of How To Make It in the New Music Business. Forbes calls him “The poster child of DIY music.” In this show, he deconstructs the brightest minds in the music industry, digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and strategies that listeners can use to run successful careers of their own. Ari offers straight talk with no fluff and doesn’t let his guests off easy. If there is a way, Ari will find it. To learn more follow @aristake_ and @ariherstand Visit aristake.com to join the newsletter. -- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039"},"episode":{"title":"This Artist-Run Record Label is Competing with the Majors in a Big Way","slug":"this-artist-run-record-label-is-competing-with-the-majors-in-a-big-way","published_at":"2026-03-11T04:05:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/this-artist-run-record-label-is-competing-with-the-majors-in-a-big-way","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039","url":"https://aristake.com/michael-turner","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/thenewmusicbusiness/e/69b097d957aaa944a9ab804b/media.mp3","summary":"This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Michael Turner, founder of the disruptive record label Rebellion. Turner shares how he’s building a modern music company by leveraging viral marketing, short-form video, and niche communities to help independent artists break through without relying on traditional gatekeepers. In this episode, Turner breaks down how viral hits are engineered through tastemaker networks and micro-influencers, how artists track fan conversion across platforms, and why touring and deal structures are evolving outside the traditional label system. They also discuss royalties, distribution, and AI-generated music—and why Turner believes we’re entering a golden era for those independent artists willing to adapt. https://www.instagram.com/iamplvtinum/ https://www.instagram.com/rebellionrecordsnyc/ Chapters 00:00 - From Artist to Rebellion Founder 05:48 - Early Spotify Virality & Indie Strategy 08:17 - From Algorithms to TikTok Discovery 13:32 - Engineering Viral Campaigns 18:38 - Metrics That Matter Beyond Streams 21:36 - Turning Virality Into Ticket Sales 24:13 - New Touring Models for Indie Artists 34:04 - Building the Modern Indie Ecosystem 43:01 - AI’s Impact on the Music Industry 48:32 - Signing Artists in the Indie Era Edited and mixed by Ari Davids-Ergas Music by Brassroots District Produced by the team at Ari’s Take Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"This week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Michael Turner, founder of the disruptive record label Rebellion. Turner shares how he’s b…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4109,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/episodes/this-artist-run-record-label-is-competing-with-the-majors-in-a-big-way/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/this-artist-run-record-label-is-competing-with-the-majors-in-a-big-way.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}