{"podcast":{"title":"The New Music Business with Ari Herstand","slug":"the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039","podcast_index_feed_id":744039,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/6b22dabf-b9be-45c2-bddb-1483c14ab221","website_url":"https://www.aristake.com","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/614da10f772a06733661598c/1659202057312-f105d523ac15bf7f40e73f2d40a9c4d1.jpeg","author":"Ari's Take","episode_count":234,"summary":"**WEBBY AWARD FOR BEST MUSIC PODCAST** “#1 music industry podcast to help keep you in the loop” -Spotify “The 10 Best Music Business Podcasts of 2022\" – Variety Ari Herstand is the best-selling author of How To Make It in the New Music Business. Forbes calls him “The poster child of DIY music.” In this show, he deconstructs the brightest minds in the music industry, digging deep to find the tools, tactics, and strategies that listeners can use to run successful careers of their own. Ari offers straight talk with no fluff and doesn’t let his guests off easy. If there is a way, Ari will find it. To learn more follow @aristake_ and @ariherstand Visit aristake.com to join the newsletter. -- Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039"},"episode":{"title":"Doja Cat's Managers Have It Down","slug":"doja-cat-s-managers-have-it-down","published_at":"2026-02-18T05:04:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/doja-cat-s-managers-have-it-down","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039","url":"https://aristake.com/doja-cat-managers","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/acast/s/thenewmusicbusiness/e/69953b1bc4b7a0510c8e2763/media.mp3","summary":"This week on the New Music Business, Ari sits down with powerhouse managers Gordan Dillard and Josh Kaplan, the team behind global superstar Doja Cat. Together, they break down how they helped build one of the most influential, multi-hyphenate artists of the decade. Gordan and Josh share early viral moments of Doja Cat's diversified empire spanning music, brand partnerships, and new business ventures. Other topics discussed here include: how features really work, how producers differ from beatmakers, what modern record deals look like at the highest level, and why short-form content has completely reshaped the career-building playbook. Gordan and Josh offer candid, unfiltered advice for emerging artists and managers on finding the right partnership, building a fanbase from scratch, and creating leverage in today’s industry. https://www.instagram.com/dojacat/ https://www.agood-day.com/ 04:16 – Why Good Day Management only represents one artist 07:19 – Diversifying Doja Cat’s revenue beyond music 10:18 – How Gordon & Josh first joined Doja’s team 15:40 – The “Juicy” era and early visual strategy 17:31 – Doja Cat’s rise during the pandemic 20:42 – Long-form videos vs short-form content today 24:54 – Balancing artists’ vision with budget and label support 29:10 – How label deals and funding have evolved 36:28 – How features actually get made (creatively & financially) 44:25 – Beatmakers vs producers: what’s the difference? 48:37 – Why songs sometimes have 7 writers & 6 producers 58:54 – Advice for emerging artists & managers today Edited and mixed by Peter Schrupp Music by Brassroots District Produced by the team at Ari’s Take Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privac…","meta_description":"This week on the New Music Business, Ari sits down with powerhouse managers Gordan Dillard and Josh Kaplan, the team behind global superstar Doja Cat. Tog…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4184,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/episodes/doja-cat-s-managers-have-it-down/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-new-music-business-with-ari-herstand-744039/doja-cat-s-managers-have-it-down.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}