{"podcast":{"title":"The Nation Podcasts","slug":"the-nation-podcasts-980506","podcast_index_feed_id":980506,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/de5dbe33-63b3-4d3e-a545-07791baa168c","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/start-making-sense","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2024/1/22/16/305287dd-3c1e-4d50-8ef8-939b191115b7__ac35afe0-783b-4422-a72e-e6c64f20fcc0_38137755.jpg","author":"The Nation Magazine","episode_count":1195,"summary":"Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the week in news. Hosted by Jon Wiener and presented by The Nation Magazine.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-01T02:17:20.644204+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506"},"episode":{"title":"How the New Deal Invented the National Security State w/ Andrew Preston / American Prestige","slug":"how-the-new-deal-invented-the-national-security-state-w-andrew-preston-american-prestige","published_at":"2026-07-22T13:55:42+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506/how-the-new-deal-invented-the-national-security-state-w-andrew-preston-american-prestige","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506","url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/de5dbe33-63b3-4d3e-a545-07791baa168c/episodes/0cd2d7f0-eea6-4e77-9b93-9a4915074fc6","audio_url":"https://audio4.redcircle.com/episodes/0cd2d7f0-eea6-4e77-9b93-9a4915074fc6/stream.mp3","summary":"Danny and Derek speak with historian Andrew Preston about the origins and development of the American national security state as we know it. They discuss the original meaning of “national security” in the early days of the republic; the idea of free security; the New Deal and the relationship between social security and national security; World War II, the Cold War, and the expansion of the security state; liberalism and American empire; and what national security looks like moving forward. Be sure to grab a copy of Andrew’s book on the subject, Total Defense: The New Deal and the Invention of National Security . Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy","meta_description":"Danny and Derek speak with historian Andrew Preston about the origins and development of the American national security state as we know it. They discuss…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4036,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-nation-podcasts-980506/episodes/how-the-new-deal-invented-the-national-security-state-w-andrew-preston-american-prestige/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506/how-the-new-deal-invented-the-national-security-state-w-andrew-preston-american-prestige.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}