{"podcast":{"title":"The Nation Podcasts","slug":"the-nation-podcasts-980506","podcast_index_feed_id":980506,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/de5dbe33-63b3-4d3e-a545-07791baa168c","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/start-making-sense","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2024/1/22/16/305287dd-3c1e-4d50-8ef8-939b191115b7__ac35afe0-783b-4422-a72e-e6c64f20fcc0_38137755.jpg","author":"The Nation Magazine","episode_count":1195,"summary":"Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the week in news. Hosted by Jon Wiener and presented by The Nation Magazine.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-01T02:17:20.644204+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506"},"episode":{"title":"Borderlands w/ Ken Salazar / Fighting Fascism","slug":"borderlands-w-ken-salazar-fighting-fascism","published_at":"2026-07-20T14:15:28+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506/borderlands-w-ken-salazar-fighting-fascism","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506","url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/de5dbe33-63b3-4d3e-a545-07791baa168c/episodes/8d20946a-df48-464b-9e2d-9e1629af9539","audio_url":"https://audio4.redcircle.com/episodes/8d20946a-df48-464b-9e2d-9e1629af9539/stream.mp3","summary":"This one’s a little different. Aaron, Matt, and Jonathan talk with Ken Salazar—former US Senator from Colorado, Secretary of the Interior under Obama, and Ambassador to Mexico under Biden—about why Democrats need to rethink their approach to the US-Mexico border and start treating immigration not as a liability to be managed, but a genuine opportunity to be seized. We also discuss the politics of Mexico and Ken’s experiences with AMLO, Mexico’s former insanely popular populist president, and Claudia Sheinbaum, Mexico’s current insanely popular populist president. Aaron even tries to get a little feisty with Ken about his climate record, but fails spectacularly due to Ken’s kind grandpa demeanor. Oh well. Check out Ken Salazar’s new book, Borderlands . Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy","meta_description":"This one’s a little different. Aaron, Matt, and Jonathan talk with Ken Salazar—former US Senator from Colorado, Secretary of the Interior under Obama, and…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3645,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-nation-podcasts-980506/episodes/borderlands-w-ken-salazar-fighting-fascism/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-nation-podcasts-980506/borderlands-w-ken-salazar-fighting-fascism.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}