{"podcast":{"title":"The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy","slug":"the-modern-therapist-s-survival-guide-with-curt-widhalm-and-katie-vernoy-410171","podcast_index_feed_id":410171,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/HEGNI6334972089","website_url":"https://therapyreimagined.com/podcast/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/652afa5a-690e-11ed-8058-874130407439/image/cf657d2d5c7ee2741fcc46cf7c733767.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Katie Vernoy","episode_count":498,"summary":"The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over social media, engaging in social activism, pushing back against mental health stigma, and facing a whole new style of entrepreneurship. To support you as a whole person, a business owner, and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-06T14:18:58.524043+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-modern-therapist-s-survival-guide-with-curt-widhalm-and-katie-vernoy-410171"},"episode":{"title":"Before You Refer to the Hospital: De-Escalation, Safety Planning, and Wraparound Care for Teens in Crisis","slug":"before-you-refer-to-the-hospital-de-escalation-safety-planning-and-wraparound-care-for-teens-in-crisis","published_at":"2026-05-25T07:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-modern-therapist-s-survival-guide-with-curt-widhalm-and-katie-vernoy-410171/before-you-refer-to-the-hospital-de-escalation-safety-planning-and-wraparound-care-for-teens-in-crisis","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-modern-therapist-s-survival-guide-with-curt-widhalm-and-katie-vernoy-410171","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/HEGNI5895064102.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/HEGNI5895064102.mp3","summary":"Before You Refer to the Hospital: De-Escalation, Safety Planning, and Wraparound Care for Teens in Crisis When a suicidal teen is in crisis, is the hospital really the safest call? What outpatient therapists need to know. Curt Widhalm, LMFT, leads this episode from his work running a comprehensive DBT private practice in Los Angeles that specializes in higher-acuity adolescent cases, including teens with serious suicidality, self-harm, and emotional dysregulation. These are exactly the clients most often routed toward psychiatric hospitalization or platform-based care, and Curt argues the default-to-hospital reflex frequently makes things worse, not better. Drawing on recent research and his clinical experience, Curt walks through the iatrogenic harms of adolescent psychiatric inpatient care, why post-discharge is the highest-risk window for completed suicide, and how clinician anxiety can drive premature 5150 holds and crisis referrals. Katie Vernoy, LMFT, joins with years of LPS-designated assessment experience from community mental health, naming what really happens when a teen gets sent in, including the relational rupture that often starts the moment a crisis evaluation is requested. Together they show outpatient therapists, including solo practitioners, how to build the clinical infrastructure that makes hospital diversion a real option: standardized risk assessment, collaborative safety planning that starts at intake, verbal de-escalation, family-integrated care, and wraparound treatment teams that include both formal providers and informal natural supports. This is a continuing education podcourse. Therapists can earn 1 CE credit through the Modern Therapist Learning Community at moderntherapistcommunity.com. 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