{"podcast":{"title":"The Midlife Chrysalis","slug":"the-midlife-chrysalis-7361713","podcast_index_feed_id":7361713,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/105945268/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.meawisdom.com/podcast","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/43785738/43785738-1748630750525-5568715944a63.jpg","author":"Chip Conley","episode_count":137,"summary":"The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-22T22:19:30.272818+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-midlife-chrysalis-7361713"},"episode":{"title":"Why Love Requires Skills Most People Never Learn | Terry Real","slug":"why-love-requires-skills-most-people-never-learn-terry-real","published_at":"2026-03-23T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-midlife-chrysalis-7361713/why-love-requires-skills-most-people-never-learn-terry-real","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-midlife-chrysalis-7361713","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/themidlifechrysalis/episodes/Why-Love-Requires-Skills-Most-People-Never-Learn--Terry-Real-e3gr6h3","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/105945268/podcast/play/117331939/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-23%2F420570512-44100-2-a89620825a49e.mp3","summary":"Why do so many relationships lose intimacy over time, even when love is still there? In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis , Chip Conley talks with renowned couples therapist Terry Real , creator of Relational Life Therapy and bestselling author of Fierce Intimacy and The New Rules of Marriage. For decades, Terry has helped couples understand why connection fades—and how to rebuild it. In this conversation, he explains: Why love requires skills most people were never taught How childhood patterns quietly shape adult relationships Why traditional masculinity often blocks emotional intimacy How couples can reignite connection in midlife Terry argues that relationships don’t fail because people stop caring, they fail because no one teaches us how to do intimacy well. Watch the episode to learn the relationship skills that can change everything. Timestamps: 01:30 Terry Real joins from Anguilla 03:01 What is Relational Life Therapy (RLT) 03:54 Why RLT takes sides in couples therapy 06:18 The core principles of RLT 08:14 Trauma triggers and childhood patterns in relationships 11:59 What holds men back in relationships 15:04 Redefining masculinity for intimacy 16:25 Patriarchy and the modern relationship crisis 18:23 Relational joy vs gratification culture 22:44 Reigniting intimacy as empty nesters 27:03 Why couples must confront resentment 29:46 Independence vs connection in long-term relationships 33:24 Are you really happy in your relationship 36:53 Why relationships require practice and skill 40:08 Wisdom bumper sticker Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #midliferelationships #relationshipadvice #intimacy #modernrelationships #couplestherapy #loveskills #relationshipskills #midlifechrysalis #emotionalintimacy #terryreal #relationshipgrowth #relationshippro…","meta_description":"Why do so many relationships lose intimacy over time, even when love is still there? In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis , Chip Conley talks with renowne…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2869,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-midlife-chrysalis-7361713/episodes/why-love-requires-skills-most-people-never-learn-terry-real/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-midlife-chrysalis-7361713/why-love-requires-skills-most-people-never-learn-terry-real.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}