{"podcast":{"title":"The Materialist : A Podcast from At Present","slug":"the-materialist-a-podcast-from-at-present-7020202","podcast_index_feed_id":7020202,"rss_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/3032602.rss","website_url":"https://atpresent.substack.com/podcast","image_url":"https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/3032602/b23cc577c853a27e2e85620781b32946.jpg","author":"At Present","episode_count":39,"summary":"An exploration of material culture with At Present Founder Marc Bridge. Marc is a Materialist. He loves things -- the things artists make, the things we sell, the things we make part of our our lives. But he was conflicted. Why do things matter? Why do creative people dedicate their lives to crafting them? What does it mean to obsess about what we buy, wear, and put in our homes. Are we destroying our planet, our children, and ourselves through this obsession? The Materialist Podcast is an exploration of this and so much more. Join us for conversations with the world's best jewelry designers, stylists, influencers, admirers, environmentalists, academics, and a bunch of just interesting people. atpresent.substack.com","last_synced_at":"2026-06-18T10:21:57.470188+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-materialist-a-podcast-from-at-present-7020202"},"episode":{"title":"The Materialist : Rob Bates","slug":"the-materialist-rob-bates","published_at":"2026-06-03T17:02:47+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-materialist-a-podcast-from-at-present-7020202/the-materialist-rob-bates","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-materialist-a-podcast-from-at-present-7020202","url":"https://atpresent.substack.com/p/the-materialist-rob-bates","audio_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/200484575/17fe149a024eb708d3d1a0f4e6753022.mp3","summary":"This episode of The Materialist is a little different. Usually, we talk with designers, tastemakers, collectors, and creators about the objects they love: the jewelry they wear, the pieces they make, the things they choose to bring into their lives. This conversation is about jewelry, but it is not really about looking at jewelry. In fact, Rob Bates says at one point, “I don’t really like looking at jewelry. It has no interest to me. And I’ve written about jewelry for 35 years.” That may be the perfect way into Rob’s particular genius. For decades, Rob has been one of the defining journalistic voices of the jewelry industry. As longtime news editor of JCK , and before that at National Jeweler , he has covered diamonds, retailers, trade shows, controversies, crises, consolidations, family businesses, lab-grown diamonds, conflict diamonds, tariffs, marketing campaigns, and all the strange, intimate, global machinery that sits behind a ring in a case. What has kept him interested is not jewelry as decoration, but jewelry as a window into how the world works. From Rob’s perspective, the industry is a small town and a global system at once: family businesses and multinational companies, romance and commerce, ethics and marketing, gemstones and geopolitics. It touches “so many people, so many countries, so many lives,” as he puts it. Jewelry, in Rob’s telling, is not merely an accessory category. It is an industry where questions of value, truth, labor, status, love, responsibility, and storytelling all collide. That journalistic distance makes this a different kind of Materialist episode. Rob is not especially interested in whether a piece is pretty. He is interested in what it reveals. A diamond is never just a diamond. It is a product, a symbol, a commodity, a brand, a pr…","meta_description":"This episode of The Materialist is a little different. Usually, we talk with designers, tastemakers, collectors, and creators about the objects they love:…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2611,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-materialist-a-podcast-from-at-present-7020202/episodes/the-materialist-rob-bates/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-materialist-a-podcast-from-at-present-7020202/the-materialist-rob-bates.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}