{"podcast":{"title":"The Lekker Rugby Pod!","slug":"the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520","podcast_index_feed_id":6941520,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/f721ca94/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mw-welman8","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/41361869/41361869-1779714647965-8b9ca5ef2d4b7.jpg","author":"Harry Jones and MW Welman","episode_count":211,"summary":"The ever-curious MW Welman and globetrotting rugby poet Harry Jones explore the people, ideas and moments shaping South African rugby and the world game. From in-depth discussions about the Springboks to detailed match analysis, this podcast offers expert previews and reviews of both local and international matches. We also explore the wider world of rugby, covering everything from player stories to the latest news and trends. Whether you're a seasoned rugby enthusiast or just discovering the sport, there's something here for everyone. Tune in and enjoy engaging conversations that celebrate th","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 177: What Dave Rennie Told Martin Devlin About the All Blacks","slug":"episode-177-what-dave-rennie-told-martin-devlin-about-the-all-blacks","published_at":"2026-05-18T15:24:11+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520/episode-177-what-dave-rennie-told-martin-devlin-about-the-all-blacks","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/mw-welman8/episodes/Episode-177-What-Dave-Rennie-Told-Martin-Devlin-About-the-All-Blacks-e3jhrvj","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/f721ca94/podcast/play/120171955/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-18%2F424396364-44100-2-5abbb7eca19b1.mp3","summary":"Three journalists were in the room with Dave Rennie and CEO Steve Lancaster at NZR HQ in Auckland. Martin Devlin was one of them.Rennie has a word for what he wants from this team. He has a number every player must hit. He already has a starting XV in mind for the first game in South Africa. What he said in that room has not been reported anywhere else.Martin Devlin is back on the Lekker Rugby Pod, and this is the first of many conversations as we build toward the Greatest Rivalry Tour. We will also be joining Martin on the ground in South Africa for live events during the tour. More details coming soon.On this episode, MW Welman and Harry Jones sit down with Martin to hear what the new All Blacks coach said behind closed doors, and what it means for the tour..","meta_description":"Three journalists were in the room with Dave Rennie and CEO Steve Lancaster at NZR HQ in Auckland. Martin Devlin was one of them.Rennie has a word for wha…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3827,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520/episodes/episode-177-what-dave-rennie-told-martin-devlin-about-the-all-blacks/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520/episode-177-what-dave-rennie-told-martin-devlin-about-the-all-blacks.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}