{"podcast":{"title":"The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk","slug":"the-learning-leader-show-with-ryan-hawk-467929","podcast_index_feed_id":467929,"rss_url":"https://learningleadershow.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://learningleader.com/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/1/5/2/e/152e4268d7a65c08e55e3c100dce7605/Untitled_design.png","author":"Ryan Hawk","episode_count":696,"summary":"Leaders are learners. The best leaders never stop working to make themselves better. The Learning Leader Show Is series of conversations with the world's most thoughtful leaders. Entrepreneurs, CEO's, World-Class Athletes, Coaches, Best-Selling Authors, and much more.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-13T04:21:08.244061+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-learning-leader-show-with-ryan-hawk-467929"},"episode":{"title":"679: Kat Cole - From Hooters Waitress to $500M CEO, You're Interviewing for Your Next Job Every Day, Learning vs. Ego, The Four Key Mindsets for Senior Leaders, and The Journey of Who You Become","slug":"679-kat-cole-from-hooters-waitress-to-500m-ceo-you-re-interviewing-for-your-next-job-every-day-learning-vs-ego-the-four-key-mindsets-for-senior-leaders-and-the-journey-of-who-you-become","published_at":"2026-03-15T23:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-learning-leader-show-with-ryan-hawk-467929/679-kat-cole-from-hooters-waitress-to-500m-ceo-you-re-interviewing-for-your-next-job-every-day-learning-vs-ego-the-four-key-mindsets-for-senior-leaders-and-the-journey-of-who-you-become","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-learning-leader-show-with-ryan-hawk-467929","url":"https://learningleadershow.libsyn.com/679-kat-cole-from-hooters-waitress-to-500m-ceo-youre-interviewing-for-your-next-job-every-day-learning-vs-ego-the-four-key-mindsets-for-senior-leaders-and-the-journey-of-who-you-become","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/learningleadershow/LLP_-_679_Kat_Cole_FINAL.mp3?dest-id=259291","summary":"Go to www.LearningLeader.com This is brought to you by Insight Global . If you need to hire one person, hire a team of people, or transform your business through Talent or Technical Services, Insight Global's team of 30,000 people around the world has the hustle and grit to deliver. My Guest: Kat Cole is the CEO of AG1 (formerly Athletic Greens) and a renowned business leader known for a meteoric rise from Hooters waitress to Fortune 40 Under 40 executive. As former President/COO of Focus Brands (Cinnabon), she specializes in scaling global brands. Her career is defined by driving billions in sales, strategic innovation, and a strong, people-first leadership style. Key Learnings You can't market your way out of a bad product. AG1 has 3x'd the business in four years while being in only one channel (direct to consumer) for 15 years. 80% of retail is in brick and mortar, so they were doing that volume in less than 20% of where transactions happen. That only works when customers love the product, keep buying it for years, and tell their friends. Scale comes from trusted recommendations, not marketing spend. Real volume comes from people telling their friends, recommending it to their teams and companies. That's where real scale and sustainable growth comes from. Two questions guide every career decision. Is my work done here? Can someone else do what the company needs better than I can? If the answer to either is yes, that guides you toward pushing for change in your role, the way you show up, or finding the next opportunity. Sometimes the best move is the lesser-known role. Kat could have stayed running big franchise brands everyone knew (Cinnabon, Auntie Anne's), but becoming COO of the parent company, Focus Brands, was a bigger, more complex role. Lesser known, smaller…","meta_description":"Go to www.LearningLeader.com This is brought to you by Insight Global . If you need to hire one person, hire a team of people, or transform your business…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3535,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-learning-leader-show-with-ryan-hawk-467929/episodes/679-kat-cole-from-hooters-waitress-to-500m-ceo-you-re-interviewing-for-your-next-job-every-day-learning-vs-ego-the-four-key-mindsets-for-senior-leaders-and-the-journey-of-who-you-become/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-learning-leader-show-with-ryan-hawk-467929/679-kat-cole-from-hooters-waitress-to-500m-ceo-you-re-interviewing-for-your-next-job-every-day-learning-vs-ego-the-four-key-mindsets-for-senior-leaders-and-the-journey-of-who-you-become.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}