{"podcast":{"title":"The Leading Below the Surface Podcast with LaTonya Wilkins","slug":"the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259","podcast_index_feed_id":6464259,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e4da3074/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://changecoaches.io","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/38295045/38295045-1732405077712-0a0161442b7b7.jpg","author":"LaTonya Wilkins","episode_count":70,"summary":"Honest conversations on grounded leadership, identity, and what it means to lead and coach below the surface. Hosted by LaTonya Wilkins — award-winning executive coach and author of Leading Below the Surface — this podcast goes beyond strategy and into the real work: who you are, how you lead, and what becomes possible when you start leading below the surface. For leaders, coaches, and anyone navigating growth with intention. Learn more at changecoaches.io. Subscribe to our bi-monthly newsletter at https://change-coaches.kit.com/profile","last_synced_at":"2026-07-17T00:19:57.042457+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 66: Money Below the Surface: How Our Stories, Systems, And Nervous Systems Shape Financial Choices","slug":"ep-66-money-below-the-surface-how-our-stories-systems-and-nervous-systems-shape-financial-choices","published_at":"2026-03-11T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/ep-66-money-below-the-surface-how-our-stories-systems-and-nervous-systems-shape-financial-choices","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/leadingbelowthesurface/episodes/Ep-66-Money-Below-the-Surface-How-Our-Stories--Systems--And-Nervous-Systems-Shape-Financial-Choices-e3g8k87","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e4da3074/podcast/play/116723399/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-10%2F419746808-44100-2-817be095dd723.mp3","summary":"What does your relationship with money really say about you — and the systems you were raised in? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with financial coach and trainer Saundra Davis for a raw, wise, and deeply human conversation about money, trauma, and economic justice. Drawing from decades of experience at the intersection of financial coaching and economic justice, Saundra unpacks why so many people — especially people of color — struggle with money, and why that struggle has far less to do with personal failure than with systems designed to extract wealth from those least equipped to fight back. This episode offers compassion, clarity, and a reframe of what it truly means to build wealth. 🎥 Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcasts Episode Chapters & Key Moments [00:00] Intro & how LaTonya met Saundra at ICF Converge The story behind the connection and what makes Saundra's work distinct Auntie energy and why it matters in financial coaching [04:30] Auntie energy, kinfolk, and the generational gap What it means to show up with warmth and zero judgment Bridging generational differences in how we talk about money [10:00] Music, community, and staying connected across generations How shared culture keeps us rooted The role of community in financial healing [16:20] Growing up poor and the scarcity mindset How childhood environments shape our earliest money beliefs Why scarcity thinking isn't a personal flaw — it's a survival response [21:00] How the environment creates our relationship with money Systems, not character, create poverty Why shame around money is a design feature, not a bug [26:45] Trauma, money, and two kids raised in the same house H…","meta_description":"What does your relationship with money really say about you — and the systems you were raised in? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wi…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2977,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/episodes/ep-66-money-below-the-surface-how-our-stories-systems-and-nervous-systems-shape-financial-choices/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/ep-66-money-below-the-surface-how-our-stories-systems-and-nervous-systems-shape-financial-choices.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}