{"podcast":{"title":"The Leading Below the Surface Podcast with LaTonya Wilkins","slug":"the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259","podcast_index_feed_id":6464259,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e4da3074/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://changecoaches.io","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/38295045/38295045-1732405077712-0a0161442b7b7.jpg","author":"LaTonya Wilkins","episode_count":70,"summary":"Honest conversations on grounded leadership, identity, and what it means to lead and coach below the surface. Hosted by LaTonya Wilkins — award-winning executive coach and author of Leading Below the Surface — this podcast goes beyond strategy and into the real work: who you are, how you lead, and what becomes possible when you start leading below the surface. For leaders, coaches, and anyone navigating growth with intention. Learn more at changecoaches.io. Subscribe to our bi-monthly newsletter at https://change-coaches.kit.com/profile","last_synced_at":"2026-07-17T00:19:57.042457+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 50: Inclusion Below the Surface: The Hard Truths and Risks of Abandoning Inclusivity","slug":"ep-50-inclusion-below-the-surface-the-hard-truths-and-risks-of-abandoning-inclusivity","published_at":"2025-05-05T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/ep-50-inclusion-below-the-surface-the-hard-truths-and-risks-of-abandoning-inclusivity","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/leadingbelowthesurface/episodes/Ep-50-Inclusion-Below-the-Surface-The-Hard-Truths-and-Risks-of-Abandoning-Inclusivity-e32ckae","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e4da3074/podcast/play/102174478/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-4-4%2F66911f9d-1c97-5552-ce24-5a2b9376dca6.mp3","summary":"Dive into the challenging realities of inclusive leadership in this powerful episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast! Host LaTonya Wilkins welcomes psychologist and author Nadia Nagamootoo to discuss her groundbreaking book \"Beyond Discomfort: Why Inclusive Leadership is so Hard. Episode Summary: In this thought-provoking conversation, LaTonya and Nadia explore why inclusion goes far beyond traditional DEI frameworks and why abandoning inclusivity poses significant risks to organizations and society. They discuss how inclusive leadership impacts innovation, mental health, and our ability to address global challenges, revealing the psychological barriers that make inclusion difficult but even more necessary in today's world. Key Insights: Inclusive leadership extends beyond corporate DEI initiatives to impact innovation, mental health, and our approach to global challenges Power dynamics create resistance to inclusive practices, making change difficult but essential. The psychological discomfort of inclusive leadership is something to embrace rather than avoid. Receptiveness to learning about ourselves and others is fundamental to inclusive leadership. Short-term thinking prevents us from seeing the long-term benefits of inclusive practices If you're concerned about recent backlash against inclusion initiatives or looking for deeper perspectives on creating truly inclusive environments, this episode offers valuable insights that go below the surface of conventional DEI discussions. 👉 Don't forget to LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the NOTIFICATION BELL to stay updated on new episodes exploring leadership that challenges the status quo! More About Nadia NADIA NAGAMOOTOO (she/her) is the founder and CEO of Avenir. She’s a Chartered Psychologist, a MBA and accredited coa…","meta_description":"Dive into the challenging realities of inclusive leadership in this powerful episode of the Leading Below the Surface podcast! Host LaTonya Wilkins welcom…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2333,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/episodes/ep-50-inclusion-below-the-surface-the-hard-truths-and-risks-of-abandoning-inclusivity/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/ep-50-inclusion-below-the-surface-the-hard-truths-and-risks-of-abandoning-inclusivity.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}