{"podcast":{"title":"The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon Edition","slug":"the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition-6936765","podcast_index_feed_id":6936765,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/60baafd7d3cdd0001b29d9ee","website_url":"http://www.lawfaremedia.org","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/60baafd7d3cdd0001b29d9ee/1724858098623-5e1213fa-2c3a-4277-921d-d1474cab28fb.jpeg","author":"The Lawfare Institute","episode_count":2189,"summary":"The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfaremedia.org. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-08-02T08:22:16.542882+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition-6936765"},"episode":{"title":"Lawfare Archive: DOGE’s Attack on the Treasury Department","slug":"lawfare-archive-doge-s-attack-on-the-treasury-department","published_at":"2026-06-20T09:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition-6936765/lawfare-archive-doge-s-attack-on-the-treasury-department","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition-6936765","url":"https://shows.acast.com/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition/episodes/lawfare-archive-doges-attack-on-treasury-department","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/60baafd7d3cdd0001b29d9ee/e/6a3448254a187774aca965b3/media.mp3","summary":"From February 21, 2025: Before January, most Americans had probably never heard of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS), a Treasury Department agency that distributes payments from the federal government. But over the last month, this corner of government has appeared again and again in the headlines, as aides working with Elon Musk’s quasi-governmental DOGE initiative successfully gained access to BFS’s payment systems. After a flurry of litigation , a temporary restraining order now bars these aides from accessing data—but the crisis is not over. It’s still not clear precisely what happened within BFS or what access political actors within the administration might gain in the future, and DOGE continues to access similarly sensitive systems in other agencies, such as the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service. To understand what’s happening, Senior Editor Quinta Jurecic spoke with Wendy Edelberg, director of the Hamilton Project and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Jacob Leibenluft, who served in the Treasury Department and the Office of Management and Budget under the Biden administration. Why is it so alarming to have political appointees accessing BFS systems? What does this tell us about the administration’s political goals? And what manner of crises could result from this kind of meddling?&nbsp; Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"From February 21, 2025: Before January, most Americans had probably never heard of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS), a Treasury Department agency th…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3480,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition-6936765/episodes/lawfare-archive-doge-s-attack-on-the-treasury-department/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition-6936765/lawfare-archive-doge-s-attack-on-the-treasury-department.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}