{"podcast":{"title":"The Kids or Childfree Podcast","slug":"the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428","podcast_index_feed_id":6725428,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/497933/rss","website_url":"https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/podcast","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/2/c/7/8/2c78ed175c360c8388c4a68c3ddbc4f2/FINAL_PODCAST_ART.png","author":"Keltie Maguire","episode_count":107,"summary":"Should I have kids? If you're on the fence about whether or not to have kids, this is your podcast. Each week, host and Clarity Coach, Keltie Maguire, will interview a wide-ranging host of different voices — from best-selling authors to outdoor adventurers to health experts — about their personal Kids or Childfree decision and the topics that run alongside this choice. From new and long-time moms to the currently ambivalent to those who are childfree by choice, you'll get to hear the answers to all the questions you can't seem to get straight answers on. What's it really like being a parent? What happens to childfree people when they get old? Do people who don't have kids regret it? Can you ever really be ready to have a child? And perhaps most importantly: How can I make my own Kids or Childfree decision?","last_synced_at":"2026-06-04T04:18:27.784400+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428"},"episode":{"title":"91. Marcia Drut-Davis on Being Unapologetically Childfree","slug":"91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree","published_at":"2026-01-21T19:57:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428","url":"https://81cffad0-1139-4cb7-be39-26dc670a9d20.libsyn.com/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/81cffad0-1139-4cb7-be39-26dc670a9d20/KM_-_EP_91_-_Podcast_Audio.mp3?dest-id=4261233","summary":"Keltie is speaking with childfree trailblazer, Marcia Drut-Davis, about the ups and downs of her life without children. They discuss... Marcia's public \"coming out\" of her childfree choice on the national TV show \"60 Minutes\" in 1974 — and the backlash that came with it. The stigma surrounding the childfree choice and the emotional toll it can take on those who choose it. Marcia's friendships with moms — and what has been key to these relationships surviving the different seasons of parenthood. The importance of young people in her life — and how you can cultivate intergenerational relationships. The profound beauty that can be found in life's simple, and seemingly insignificant moments, and how these can be a source of immense joy. Live as an 83-year-old childfree woman ____ (1:58) Meet Marcia and her Kids or Childfree decision (9:06) Announcing her childfree decision on \"60 Minutes\" (16:56) Tips for telling family & friends that you're not having kids (25:25) Community across generations (39:04) Being childfree in your 80s (46:15) Advice for people on the fence ____ MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Marcia's Instagram ▸ https://www.instagram.com/childfree_guru/ Read Marcia's two books: Confessions of a Childfree Woman ▸ https://bookshop.org/p/books/confessions-of-a-childfree-woman-a-life-spent-swimming-against-the-mainstream-marcia-drut-davis/adbfbde18db5546e?ean=9780615819235&next=t What?! You Don't Want Children? ▸ https://bookshop.org/p/books/what-you-don-t-want-children-understanding-rejection-in-the-childfree-lifestyle-marcia-drut-davis/99ca98586b6991e2?ean=9781646693504&next=t ____ ABOUT MARCIA Marcia Drut-Davis is an American author, speaker, and longtime pioneer of the childfree-by-choice movement who first gained national attention in 1974 when she publicly…","meta_description":"Keltie is speaking with childfree trailblazer, Marcia Drut-Davis, about the ups and downs of her life without children. They discuss... Marcia's public \"c…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3169,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/episodes/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}