{"podcast":{"title":"The Kids or Childfree Podcast","slug":"the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428","podcast_index_feed_id":6725428,"rss_url":"https://feeds.libsyn.com/497933/rss","website_url":"https://www.kidsorchildfree.com/podcast","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/2/c/7/8/2c78ed175c360c8388c4a68c3ddbc4f2/FINAL_PODCAST_ART.png","author":"Keltie Maguire","episode_count":107,"summary":"Should I have kids? If you're on the fence about whether or not to have kids, this is your podcast. Each week, host and Clarity Coach, Keltie Maguire, will interview a wide-ranging host of different voices — from best-selling authors to outdoor adventurers to health experts — about their personal Kids or Childfree decision and the topics that run alongside this choice. From new and long-time moms to the currently ambivalent to those who are childfree by choice, you'll get to hear the answers to all the questions you can't seem to get straight answers on. What's it really like being a parent? What happens to childfree people when they get old? Do people who don't have kids regret it? Can you ever really be ready to have a child? And perhaps most importantly: How can I make my own Kids or Childfree decision?","last_synced_at":"2026-06-04T04:18:27.784400+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428"},"episode":{"title":"81. Laura Carroll on the Influence of Pronatalism on Your Kids or Childfree Choice","slug":"81-laura-carroll-on-the-influence-of-pronatalism-on-your-kids-or-childfree-choice","published_at":"2025-10-15T09:29:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/81-laura-carroll-on-the-influence-of-pronatalism-on-your-kids-or-childfree-choice","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428","url":"https://81cffad0-1139-4cb7-be39-26dc670a9d20.libsyn.com/81-laura-carroll-on-the-influence-of-pronatalism-on-your-kids-or-childfree-choice","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/81cffad0-1139-4cb7-be39-26dc670a9d20/KM_-_EP_81_-_Podcast_Audio_-_FINAL.mp3?dest-id=4261233","summary":"In this conversation, we hear from writer and researcher, Laura Carroll, about how societal and cultural narratives — including pronatalist beliefs — influence and shape our Kids or Childfree desires and the choices we ultimately make. Keltie and Laura... Delve into the complexities of choosing a childfree life, and the idea of \"shifting sureness\". Discuss Laura's extensive research on childfree individuals and her works, \"25 over 10\" and \"The Baby Matrix\". Explore the importance of questioning societal norms and the impact of personal experiences on life decisions. Unpack some of the deep-rooted beliefs that influence individuals' decisions to have children. Explore the notion that childfree individuals are responsible for societal issues resulting from population decline. (0:27) Meet Laura and her Kids or Childfree decision (10:03) Laura's 10-year study of 25 childfree women (16:30) Defining \"pronatalism\" and its impact on people's decision (29:28) Should parenting require a license? (37:10) The sinking population rate and reproductive freedom (51:07) Demographic and statistic shifts in childfree people As mentioned in the show Find Laura online at https://lauracarroll.com Read Laura's books: The Baby Matrix: lauracarroll.com/book-review/the-baby-matrix/ 25 Over 10: A Childfree Longitudinal Study: lauracarroll.com/book-review/25-over-10/ Families of Two: lauracarroll.com/book-review/ebook-families-of-two-interviews-with-happily-married-couples-without-children-by-choice/ Find Laura on social media: Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/lauracarroll88.bsky.social LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carrollcommunicationsconsulting/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauralcarroll88/ FB The Baby Matrix Page: https://www.facebook.com/TheBabyMatrix/ FB Families of Two: Ch…","meta_description":"In this conversation, we hear from writer and researcher, Laura Carroll, about how societal and cultural narratives — including pronatalist beliefs — infl…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4209,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/episodes/81-laura-carroll-on-the-influence-of-pronatalism-on-your-kids-or-childfree-choice/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/81-laura-carroll-on-the-influence-of-pronatalism-on-your-kids-or-childfree-choice.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}