{"podcast":{"title":"The Julia La Roche Show","slug":"the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803","podcast_index_feed_id":5842803,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/41aa63c4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/julia-la-roche","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/production/podcast_uploaded_nologo/10916857/10916857-1660085096509-ec2c80bf0ad2a.jpg","author":"Julia La Roche","episode_count":395,"summary":"Julia La Roche brings her listeners in-depth conversations with some of the top CEOs, investors, founders, academics, and rising stars in business. Guests on \"The Julia La Roche Show\" have included Bill Ackman, Ray Dalio, Marc Benioff, Kyle Bass, Hugh Hendry, Nassim Taleb, Nouriel Roubini, David Friedberg, Anthony Scaramucci, Scott Galloway, Brent Johnson, Jim Rickards, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Carol Roth, Neil Howe, Jim Rogers, Jim Bianco, Josh Brown, and many more. Julia always makes the show about the guest, never the host. She speaks less and listens more. She always does her homework.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-24T00:18:02.386758+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803"},"episode":{"title":"#375 Howell: Liquidity Slowing, Speculation Phase Ending, Why A Fed Hike Might Be Coming","slug":"375-howell-liquidity-slowing-speculation-phase-ending-why-a-fed-hike-might-be-coming","published_at":"2026-06-02T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/375-howell-liquidity-slowing-speculation-phase-ending-why-a-fed-hike-might-be-coming","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/julia-la-roche/episodes/375-Howell-Liquidity-Slowing--Speculation-Phase-Ending--Why-A-Fed-Hike-Might-Be-Coming-e3k5bem","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO3513790121.mp3","summary":"Michael Howell, CEO of CrossBorder Capital, an investment advisory firm, and author of Capital Wars, returns to The Julia La Roche Show for an in-studio episode. In this episode, Howell reveals money is flowing out of financial markets into the real economy, marking the end of Wall Street's era and the beginning of Main Street's turn. He warns the market is in a "speculation phase" with low quality returns built on narrow foundations—only AI and semiconductors are racing while most securities stagnate—and the next phase will be "turbulence" as liquidity slows and the bearish flattening yield curve continues. Howell details how the system has monetized with the Treasury refinancing $600 billion per week in short-term bills, notes there is "unquestionably way too much debt," and makes the contrarian call that the Fed will raise rates in the next 12 months because the economy is too strong at 7-8% nominal GDP growth. He positions commodities and energy as the place to be, argues gold is a hedge against monetary inflation (not CPI), and suggests the gold-oil ratio could imply oil prices of $200 per barrel. Thank you to our sponsor Monetary Metals. https://monetary-metals.com/julia Links: Website: http://www.crossbordercapital.com/ Twitter/X https://x.com/crossbordercap Substack: https://capitalwars.substack.com/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Wars-Rise-Global-Liquidity/dp/3030392902 0:00 Opening - Money leaving financial markets for real economy 1:29 Speculation phase - Low quality returns on narrow foundations 6:49 Liquidity rolling over - Rate of change critical 7:38 Money flowing from financial sector to real economy 13:23 Debt refinancing phenomenon - 4 out of 5 transactions 15:25 Way too much debt, only monetization is the way out 1…","meta_description":"Michael Howell, CEO of CrossBorder Capital, an investment advisory firm, and author of Capital Wars, returns to The Julia La Roche Show for an in-studio e…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2624,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/episodes/375-howell-liquidity-slowing-speculation-phase-ending-why-a-fed-hike-might-be-coming/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/375-howell-liquidity-slowing-speculation-phase-ending-why-a-fed-hike-might-be-coming.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}