{"podcast":{"title":"The Jacob Shapiro Podcast","slug":"the-jacob-shapiro-podcast-5326035","podcast_index_feed_id":5326035,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/jacob-shapiro/","website_url":"https://www.jacobshapiro.com","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/b9153f19-90a0-43d3-bd17-554c3a800780/hOlXRn8A0JZIW_T_d93mt16u.png","author":"Jacob Shapiro","episode_count":350,"summary":"Hosted by Jacob Shapiro, the Jacob Shapiro Podcast is long-form exploration of geopolitics, markets, crypto, agriculture, macro-finance, commodities, ForEx, and much much more! Tune in biweekly for interviews with experts across the globe, and weekly for roundups of global financial and geopolitical events!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-31T22:18:10.564697+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jacob-shapiro-podcast-5326035"},"episode":{"title":"Lessons Learned - Geopolitical Cousins","slug":"lessons-learned-geopolitical-cousins","published_at":"2026-07-31T11:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jacob-shapiro-podcast-5326035/lessons-learned-geopolitical-cousins","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jacob-shapiro-podcast-5326035","url":"https://geopolitical-cousins.captivate.fm/episode/taos-2","audio_url":"https://podcasts.captivate.fm/media/b897fdbf-9de8-499b-b3d6-51eb618841cb/Geopolitical-Cousins-Taos-4p-E2.mp3?played_on=32a6d79c-62aa-478c-8e75-f88a2a4c015c","summary":"Round two. Same four analysts, a lot more whiskey, and a lot less structure. Peter Zeihan, Marko Papic, and Matt Gertken sit back down with Jacob - a man who cut his teeth pestering all three of them for their pieces as a Stratfor intern - for an unfiltered conversation about how they actually became geopolitical strategists. They trade formative-moment stories from Stratfor's early-2000s \"golden age\" (including the Egypt/Mubarak call that made Jacob's career), debate whether corporate America can ever hire real geopolitical talent, and each name the one book that shaped how they see the world - from World War Z to Aristotle to The Ingenuity Gap. Along the way: George Friedman lore, the DC Comics-vs-Marvel theory of geopolitical shops, and a genuinely moving closing tribute to the mentor who built this whole coaching tree. Part reunion, part masterclass in how to think about the world - and part roast session. -- Timestamps: (00:00) - Welcome Back Round Two (00:52) - Whiskey And Loose Format (01:34) - Formative Stratfor Moments (02:24) - Arab Spring Cred Test (04:17) - Stratfor Coaching Tree (07:50) - Pipeline After Cold War (14:17) - Academia Versus Geopolitics (17:14) - Analyst Craft And Courage (20:22) - Chief Geopolitical Officer Debate (22:55) - Training Gap And Time Horizons (25:29) - Universities And MBA Reform (27:39) - Ideology And Groupthink (30:02) - Theory Versus Practice (30:57) - Frameworks Beat Facts (31:44) - Operationalizing Geopolitics (34:24) - Training Pipelines and MBAs (37:39) - Sector Specialists and Scale (40:01) - Everyone a Geostrategist (41:01) - Deglobalization in Fashion (42:51) - Formative Books Roundtable (51:07) - Great Men and Psychology (54:21) - Empathetic Analysis Explained (56:25) - Displacement and Perspective (58:23) - Formative E…","meta_description":"Round two. Same four analysts, a lot more whiskey, and a lot less structure. Peter Zeihan, Marko Papic, and Matt Gertken sit back down with Jacob - a man…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":5253,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-jacob-shapiro-podcast-5326035/episodes/lessons-learned-geopolitical-cousins/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jacob-shapiro-podcast-5326035/lessons-learned-geopolitical-cousins.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}