{"podcast":{"title":"The Interview","slug":"the-interview-1016532","podcast_index_feed_id":1016532,"rss_url":"https://podcasts.files.bbci.co.uk/p004t1s0.rss","website_url":"http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p004t1s0","image_url":"http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/3000x3000/p0l1426k.jpg","author":"BBC","episode_count":1940,"summary":"Conversations with people shaping our world, from all around the globe. Listen to The Interview for the best conversations from the BBC, the world's most trusted international news provider. We hear from titans of business, politics, finance, sport and culture. Global leaders, decision-makers and cultural icons. Politicians, activists and CEOs. Each interview is around 20-minutes, packed full of insight and analysis, covering some of the biggest issues of our time. How does it work? Well, at the BBC, our journalists interview amazing people every single day. And on The Interview, we bring them to you. It’s your one-stop-shop to the best conversations coming out of the BBC, with the people shaping our world, from all over the world. Get in touch with us on emailTheInterview@bbc.co.uk and use the hashtag #TheInterviewBBC on social media.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-20T02:19:24.771605+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532"},"episode":{"title":"Kate Kallot, AI founder: A global digital divide?","slug":"kate-kallot-ai-founder-a-global-digital-divide","published_at":"2026-05-31T23:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532/kate-kallot-ai-founder-a-global-digital-divide","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532","url":"http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct8kl8","audio_url":"http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download-rss-low/proto/http/vpid/p0np3hg9.mp3","summary":"“Historically, as a region, we’ve been extracted at two levels. If you look at the AI value chain, a lot of our youth, some who have studied computer science, are left at data labelling roles at the bottom of the value chain, where the least value is created. In a different way, a lot of our data is being extracted for free to train those systems. We want to make sure we don’t go into similar models that we had during colonisation.” Leanna Byrne speaks to Kate Kallot, founder of the Kenyan artificial intelligence company Amini, which is building AI infrastructure across Africa, the Caribbean and Latin America. She warns that billions of people risk being left out of the artificial intelligence systems shaping modern life, with languages, cultures and knowledge from large parts of the world underrepresented in the technology being built today. Kate argues that AI risks repeating old patterns of global inequality, with poorer countries supplying valuable data while richer nations reap the rewards. She explains why the Global South should help shape the future of AI, rather than simply supply the data behind it. The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the BBC, including episodes with Sundar Pichai and Julia Gillard. You can listen on the BBC World Service on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 0800 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out three times a week on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts. Presenter: Leanne Byrne Producer: Osman Iqbal Editor: Farhana Haider and Damon Rose Get in touch with us on email TheInterview@bbc.co.uk and use the hashtag #TheInterviewBBC on social media. (Image: Kate Kallot. Credit: Getty)","meta_description":"“Historically, as a region, we’ve been extracted at two levels. If you look at the AI value chain, a lot of our youth, some who have studied computer scie…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1379,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-interview-1016532/episodes/kate-kallot-ai-founder-a-global-digital-divide/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532/kate-kallot-ai-founder-a-global-digital-divide.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}