{"podcast":{"title":"The Interview","slug":"the-interview-1016532","podcast_index_feed_id":1016532,"rss_url":"https://podcasts.files.bbci.co.uk/p004t1s0.rss","website_url":"http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p004t1s0","image_url":"http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/3000x3000/p0l1426k.jpg","author":"BBC","episode_count":1940,"summary":"Conversations with people shaping our world, from all around the globe. Listen to The Interview for the best conversations from the BBC, the world's most trusted international news provider. We hear from titans of business, politics, finance, sport and culture. Global leaders, decision-makers and cultural icons. Politicians, activists and CEOs. Each interview is around 20-minutes, packed full of insight and analysis, covering some of the biggest issues of our time. How does it work? Well, at the BBC, our journalists interview amazing people every single day. And on The Interview, we bring them to you. It’s your one-stop-shop to the best conversations coming out of the BBC, with the people shaping our world, from all over the world. Get in touch with us on emailTheInterview@bbc.co.uk and use the hashtag #TheInterviewBBC on social media.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-20T02:19:24.771605+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532"},"episode":{"title":"John Healey, UK Defence Secretary: Russia’s covert operations","slug":"john-healey-uk-defence-secretary-russia-s-covert-operations","published_at":"2026-04-14T23:30:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532/john-healey-uk-defence-secretary-russia-s-covert-operations","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532","url":"http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct98gq","audio_url":"http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/6/redir/version/2.0/mediaset/audio-nondrm-download-rss-low/proto/http/vpid/p0ndclcq.mp3","summary":"“It was three submarines. We tracked them 24/7 for over a month to make sure that we are able to say to Putin, we see what you’re doing, we’re watching you. It means that if there is ever any damage to our cables or our pipelines, we know we can hold Putin to account. We know he can’t deny it.” Adam Fleming speaks to John Healey, the UK Defence Secretary, after he revealed Russian submarines have been carrying out covert operations over the UK’s deep-sea cables and pipelines, critical to energy and internet traffic. He says the activity could form part of a wider strategy to map infrastructure in peacetime, and target it during conflict. While global attention is focused on the Middle East, he argues Britain cannot be distracted from what he calls its “primary threat”, and that the UK and its Nato allies must remain on constant alert to Russian activity. The Interview brings you conversations with people shaping our world, from all over the world. The best interviews from the BBC, including episodes with Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelensky, and Antonio Guterres, Secretary General of the UN. You can listen on the BBC World Service on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 0800 GMT. Or you can listen to The Interview as a podcast, out three times a week on BBC Sounds or wherever you get your podcasts. Presenter: Adam Fleming Producers: Osman Iqbal Editor: Justine Lang and Damon Rose Get in touch with us on email TheInterview@bbc.co.uk and use the hashtag #TheInterviewBBC on social media. (Image: John Healey Credit: Thomas Traasdahl / Ritzau Scanpix / AFP via Getty Images)","meta_description":"“It was three submarines. We tracked them 24/7 for over a month to make sure that we are able to say to Putin, we see what you’re doing, we’re watching yo…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1315,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-interview-1016532/episodes/john-healey-uk-defence-secretary-russia-s-covert-operations/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-interview-1016532/john-healey-uk-defence-secretary-russia-s-covert-operations.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}