{"podcast":{"title":"The Integrated Schools Podcast","slug":"the-integrated-schools-podcast-520165","podcast_index_feed_id":520165,"rss_url":"https://feeds.redcircle.com/49087ad7-aab0-44e2-a4ec-1d264cf4e86f","website_url":"https://redcircle.com/shows/the-integrated-schools-podcast","image_url":"https://media.redcircle.com/images/2025/4/22/17/1914f89f-e471-4e59-a566-34a221eed18b_cf-ca05-4c61-bfef-def91f03f01e_podcastlogo2022.jpg","author":"Andrew Lefkowits, Val Brown, Courtney Mykytyn","episode_count":169,"summary":"Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversation strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-integrated-schools-podcast-520165"},"episode":{"title":"REVISIT: Calling In with Loretta Ross","slug":"revisit-calling-in-with-loretta-ross","published_at":"2026-05-06T08:00:51+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-integrated-schools-podcast-520165/revisit-calling-in-with-loretta-ross","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-integrated-schools-podcast-520165","url":"https://integratedschools.org/podcast/s12e15-revisit-calling-in-with-loretta-ross/","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/audio3.redcircle.com/episodes/093ba410-e532-428f-b3a4-cd15946f5613/stream.mp3","summary":"We're revisiting our conversation with Dr. Loretta Ross because her book, Calling In: How to Start Making Change with Those You’d Rather Cancel, is the Integrated Schools book club pick for this month. You can register for one of our amazing, free book club sessions here- https://integratedschools.org/book-club/ We’re joined by MacArthur “Genius” and legendary activist Dr. Loretta Ross for a conversation that left us grounded, challenged, and deeply moved. From her early work in reproductive justice and anti-violence movements, to her current mission disrupting “call-out culture,” Dr. Ross offers us a path forward rooted in grace, accountability, and radical love. We explore what it means to “call in” rather than call out—especially in an era where public shaming feels ever-present and social media rewards outrage. Dr. Ross shares her personal story of trauma, healing, and transformation, and helps us understand how real change happens not through perfection or purity, but through connection and curiosity. Together we unpack the power of holding ourselves and others accountable without dehumanizing. We talk parenting, public schools, and what it means to stay in the struggle without breaking our link in the “chain of freedom.” Whether you’re navigating tricky conversations in your school community or trying to show up better in the fight for justice, this episode is for you. LINKS: Register for book club! - https://integratedschools.org/book-club/ Calling In: How to Start Making Change with Those You’d Rather Cancel – Dr. Ross’s new book - https://bookshop.org/a/18658/9781982190798 What If Instead of Calling People Out, We Called Them In? – NY Times Article about Dr. Ross’s work - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/style/loretta-ross-smith-college-cancel-culture.html?u…","meta_description":"We're revisiting our conversation with Dr. Loretta Ross because her book, Calling In: How to Start Making Change with Those You’d Rather Cancel, is the In…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4300,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-integrated-schools-podcast-520165/episodes/revisit-calling-in-with-loretta-ross/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-integrated-schools-podcast-520165/revisit-calling-in-with-loretta-ross.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}