{"podcast":{"title":"The Insurgency with Steve Baker","slug":"the-insurgency-with-steve-baker-7492429","podcast_index_feed_id":7492429,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/1090ea0c4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.fightingforafreefuture.com/listen-to-the-insurgency/","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/44369209/44369209-1757101850035-21ca2abe436fe.jpg","author":"Fighting for a Free Future","episode_count":45,"summary":"Welcome to The Insurgency with Steve Baker, a podcast from Fighting for a Free Future. Every two weeks, join Rt Hon Steve Baker FRSA and Harry Richer, the Director of FFF, as they sit down with leading figures from the worlds of politics, journalism, and academia and together interrogate the public debate and the issues which matter most. Please subscribe today to support FFF. If you wish to see bonus episodes & extended interviews, please consider becoming a paid supporter at voices.fightingforafreefuture.com","last_synced_at":"2026-07-31T04:18:51.666622+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-insurgency-with-steve-baker-7492429"},"episode":{"title":"Covid, SAGE and ‘the West’s Chernobyl’ | Roger Koppl on Expert Failure","slug":"covid-sage-and-the-west-s-chernobyl-roger-koppl-on-expert-failure","published_at":"2026-04-21T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-insurgency-with-steve-baker-7492429/covid-sage-and-the-west-s-chernobyl-roger-koppl-on-expert-failure","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-insurgency-with-steve-baker-7492429","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-insurgency/episodes/Covid--SAGE-and-the-Wests-Chernobyl--Roger-Koppl-on-Expert-Failure-e3i7kj7","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/1090ea0c4/podcast/play/118788135/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-21%2F422511684-44100-2-3c2dd2b71de79.mp3","summary":"Sponsored by Glint - buy, save and spend real physical gold with a Glint Mastercard®. Visit glintpay.com to find out more. You can purchase Prof. Koppl’s books, including Expert Failure and Big Players and the Economic Theory of Expectations, here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/Roger-Koppl/author/B001HP32Z2?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true.In this clip from a Substack-exclusive edition of The Insurgency, Professor Roger Koppl explains how ad‑hoc Covid committees like SAGE were designed to preserve political discretion rather than discover the truth - and why Sweden’s very different path led to a better outcome. He argues the Covid response may prove to be “the West’s Chernobyl moment”, permanently damaging public trust in the expert state.📰 Extended cut: voices.fightingforafreefuture.com🛒 Merch: shop.fightingforafreefuture.com📧 Advertise or partner: liam@stevebaker.info","meta_description":"Sponsored by Glint - buy, save and spend real physical gold with a Glint Mastercard®. Visit glintpay.com to find out more. You can purchase Prof. Koppl’s…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":630,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-insurgency-with-steve-baker-7492429/episodes/covid-sage-and-the-west-s-chernobyl-roger-koppl-on-expert-failure/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-insurgency-with-steve-baker-7492429/covid-sage-and-the-west-s-chernobyl-roger-koppl-on-expert-failure.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}