{"podcast":{"title":"The HR Life Podcast","slug":"the-hr-life-podcast-7368906","podcast_index_feed_id":7368906,"rss_url":"https://feeds.transistor.fm/the-hr-life-podcast","website_url":"https://thehrlifepodcast.transistor.fm/","image_url":"https://img.transistorcdn.com/BVjrIn3cLzcZ9amAQWcRnMP_HccdWgMf8DJ0MnI2Q0w/rs:fill:0:0:1/w:1400/h:1400/q:60/mb:500000/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbWct/dXBsb2FkLXByb2R1/Y3Rpb24udHJhbnNp/c3Rvci5mbS9jODk0/MWQzOTZhY2IyMDVi/ODhhMWZmY2EyZTFl/ZGU0Ny5wbmc.jpg","author":"Tony Benjamin","episode_count":61,"summary":"The HR Life Podcast is a show about the work-life experience of those of us in Human Resources and business leadership. This long-form podcast is a conversation, casual, and not always the corporate line. Hosts and guests touch on everything from serious or even controversial topics to the absurdity of modern American business practices. Your hosts are Tony Benjamin, owner and founder of The Grange Strategic HR Consulting, and Steven J. Smith, Author of The Hiring Tree: Laws of Applicant Attraction and all-around important guy. Guests include the best minds in the HR world. Join the show weekly.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-29T00:17:32.802408+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906"},"episode":{"title":"EP 52 Turns Out Smiling Is Free: Aric Bostick on Attachment Theory and Why Your Face Is an HR Problem","slug":"ep-52-turns-out-smiling-is-free-aric-bostick-on-attachment-theory-and-why-your-face-is-an-hr-problem","published_at":"2026-06-09T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/ep-52-turns-out-smiling-is-free-aric-bostick-on-attachment-theory-and-why-your-face-is-an-hr-problem","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906","url":"https://share.transistor.fm/s/c964256a","audio_url":"https://media.transistor.fm/c964256a/3b4f6353.mp3","summary":"Tony and Steve welcome Aric Bostick, keynote speaker, former classroom teacher, professional crowd-energizer, and the man Steve publicly credits for telling him to get on a stage when he was just some guy with a book idea and a lot of enthusiasm. Aric brings the science of attachment theory out of the therapy room and drops it straight into your org chart. You'll learn why people leave companies that pay more to work somewhere they feel seen. Why your resting face is already sending a message to your team (it's probably not the one you want). Why \"soft skills\" is the wrong name for the hardest thing most managers will never learn. For the record, Tony has never made a mistake. Learn more about Fantastic Tony Benjamin at: https://www.thegrangellc.com/ Learn more about Steven \"Big Deal\" Smith at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/ Learn more about the Books mentioned on the podcast at: https://thehiringtreebook.com/hr-life-podcast Learn more about Dyno Outfitters at: https://www.utahviaferrata.com/ Learn more about MegastarHR at: https://www.megastarhr.com/ Learn more about Pucks for Autism at: https://www.pucksforautism.com/","meta_description":"Tony and Steve welcome Aric Bostick, keynote speaker, former classroom teacher, professional crowd-energizer, and the man Steve publicly credits for telli…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4902,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/episodes/ep-52-turns-out-smiling-is-free-aric-bostick-on-attachment-theory-and-why-your-face-is-an-hr-problem/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-hr-life-podcast-7368906/ep-52-turns-out-smiling-is-free-aric-bostick-on-attachment-theory-and-why-your-face-is-an-hr-problem.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}