{"podcast":{"title":"The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast","slug":"the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-podcast-4062107","podcast_index_feed_id":4062107,"rss_url":"https://rss.art19.com/the-heart-of-healthcare","website_url":"https://www.heartofhealthcarepodcast.com/","image_url":"https://content.production.cdn.art19.com/images/08/1b/d6/92/081bd692-3de1-47e0-8dea-f5df57735e79/a59d0ef5ad4c2db2cf3ee2e8b13f930450e607997e665411885eb022e43bf55f849eb5bc803da97cc499471b4972bde9e6a85279b2a201d1728298c8949e46f2.jpeg","author":"Massively Better Healthcare","episode_count":230,"summary":"🏆 2026 Webby Award-winning podcast. Join us every Monday for conversations with the biggest names in healthcare. Hosted by health tech veterans Halle Tecco, Michael Esquivel, and Steve Kraus. Learn more and submit your ideas for the show at the Heart of Healthcare website.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-06T12:17:59.600663+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-podcast-4062107"},"episode":{"title":"How AI Will Finally Make Healthcare Deflationary | Eric Larsen","slug":"how-ai-will-finally-make-healthcare-deflationary-eric-larsen","published_at":"2026-05-18T06:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-podcast-4062107/how-ai-will-finally-make-healthcare-deflationary-eric-larsen","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-podcast-4062107","url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/d0adf810-731c-4f03-a266-9f915fc9307f.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","audio_url":"https://rss.art19.com/episodes/d0adf810-731c-4f03-a266-9f915fc9307f.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0","summary":"AI in healthcare may be entering a new chapter, one where the biggest question is no longer whether the technology works, but who is willing to deploy it, measure it, and take responsibility for the risk. This week, Steve sits down again with Eric Larsen to revisit his predictions from last year’s Webby-winning episode on generative AI in healthcare. Eric argues that the first wave of AI has been inflationary, reinforcing the old payer-provider payment model, but that the next wave could be deflationary as automation moves into revenue cycle, administrative work, clinical reasoning, and drug development. They discuss why incumbents still have a narrow window to co-develop the future, why clinical AI may move faster outside the US, and why liability may become the deciding factor in who wins. We cover: Why healthcare is still the sector most exposed to AI-driven change How AI has reinforced fee-for-service dynamics so far, and why that may soon reverse What makes some healthcare work more automatable than others Why liability may determine how fast clinical AI gets adopted Which health systems, payers, and life sciences companies are moving fastest What will change across providers, payers, and pharma over the next year —  👉Submit your questions! We’re doing a followup episode with Eric. Submit your listener questions here: https://forms.gle/Bu335DkpHAUvygiBA —  About our guest: Eric Jon Larsen is President of TowerBrook Advisors and a member of the healthcare leadership team at TowerBrook Capital Partners, a $30 billion AUM investment firm based in New York and London. TowerBrook invests across private equity, structured minority, and growth opportunities, with a strong focus on healthcare, partnering with health systems, payers, and other strategics. Notably…","meta_description":"AI in healthcare may be entering a new chapter, one where the biggest question is no longer whether the technology works, but who is willing to deploy it,…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3584,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-podcast-4062107/episodes/how-ai-will-finally-make-healthcare-deflationary-eric-larsen/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-heart-of-healthcare-a-digital-health-podcast-4062107/how-ai-will-finally-make-healthcare-deflationary-eric-larsen.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}