{"podcast":{"title":"The Good Fight","slug":"the-good-fight-1115114","podcast_index_feed_id":1115114,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/thegoodfight","website_url":"https://www.yaschamounk.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/151e5432-6b29-11e7-8e72-9fa7258a9677/image/uploads_2F1602179393910-bsdvszvgoys-469fdde0e2fd5076469d8ca0ef0a75ed_2FThe_Good_Fight_Persuasion.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Yascha Mounk","episode_count":479,"summary":"\"The Good Fight,\" the podcast that searches for the ideas, policies and strategies that can beat authoritarian populism.Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight.If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone.Email: goodfightpod@gmail.comTwitter: @Yascha_MounkWebsite: http://www.persuasion.community","last_synced_at":"2026-08-02T10:19:44.537163+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114"},"episode":{"title":"Sebastian Mallaby on AI Safety and the Race for Superintelligence","slug":"sebastian-mallaby-on-ai-safety-and-the-race-for-superintelligence","published_at":"2026-04-04T16:44:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114/sebastian-mallaby-on-ai-safety-and-the-race-for-superintelligence","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/traffic.megaphone.fm/TGF8953713279.mp3?updated=1775321633","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pscrb.fm/rss/p/clrtpod.com/m/traffic.megaphone.fm/TGF8953713279.mp3?updated=1775321633","summary":"Yascha Mounk and Sebastian Mallaby discuss why tech leaders both fear and accelerate dangerous AI development, and whether open-source models pose unacceptable risks. Sebastian Mallaby is the author of several books including The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence. A former Financial Times contributing editor and two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker Senior Fellow for International Economics at the Council on Foreign Relations. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Sebastian Mallaby discuss why AI developers simultaneously fear and advance potentially dangerous technology, whether open-source AI models pose unacceptable security risks, and how China and the United States differ in their approaches to AI safety. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following ⁠⁠⁠this link on your phone⁠⁠⁠. Email: leonora.barclay@persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Google⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠Yascha Mounk⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Persuasion⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠Persuasion Community⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices","meta_description":"Yascha Mounk and Sebastian Mallaby discuss why tech leaders both fear and accelerate dangerous AI development, and whether open-source models pose unaccep…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3413,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-good-fight-1115114/episodes/sebastian-mallaby-on-ai-safety-and-the-race-for-superintelligence/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-good-fight-1115114/sebastian-mallaby-on-ai-safety-and-the-race-for-superintelligence.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}