{"podcast":{"title":"Giants Shoulder","slug":"the-giants-shoulder-6943930","podcast_index_feed_id":6943930,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/f592b1d4/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/evanmcgloughlin","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/41100317/41100317-1740226956129-96396ebc63bd9.jpg","author":"Evan McGloughlin","episode_count":140,"summary":"A Neuroscience podcast. Each week I talk with experts on a range of topics from consciousness and neuroplasticity to evolution and everything in between. I have a particular interest in consciousness and understanding our inner subjective conscious experience. Evan has a Neuroscience degree from Trinity College Dublin and is the co-founder of 2 (failed) edtech startups. He is a professional tennis coach and Triathlete enthusiast.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-03T04:19:34.566536+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-giants-shoulder-6943930"},"episode":{"title":"#128 - Meet the Neuroscientist Proving Scientists Got Conscious Ai WRONG","slug":"128-meet-the-neuroscientist-proving-scientists-got-conscious-ai-wrong","published_at":"2026-06-11T15:01:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-giants-shoulder-6943930/128-meet-the-neuroscientist-proving-scientists-got-conscious-ai-wrong","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-giants-shoulder-6943930","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/evanmcgloughlin/episodes/128---Meet-the-Neuroscientist-Proving-Scientists-Got-Conscious-Ai-WRONG-e3kl1jf","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO7605969944.mp3","summary":"Get Jenni, Your Intelligent Research Assistant (GIANT20 for 20% off): http://jenni.ai/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=inf&utm_campaign=thegiantsshoulder Get the Muse EEG Headband (15% off): https://choosemuse.com/giantsshoulder Paul Cisek is a control neuroscientist at the University of Montreal who records from single neurons in the brains of monkeys as they think, and who has spent decades reconstructing how the brain evolved across hundreds of millions of years. His verdict cuts against everything Silicon Valley believes: the brain was never a computer — it's a control system built to keep a body alive, and the most advanced AI on Earth understands nothing it says. Expect to learn why Richard Dawkins is wrong that Claude could be conscious, why every era wrongly compares the brain to its fanciest technology, how a baseball outfielder reveals what the brain is really doing, why large language models are "Eliza on steroids" and 100% illusion, where meaning actually comes from and why LLMs can never have it, why the real danger isn't ChatGPT but the agentic systems that come next, whether a paramecium could be conscious, what Michael Levin's neuron-growing biobots tell us about minds, and much more… Timestamps 0:00:00 Trailer 0:02:33 Why Paul Rescheduled to Watch a Monkey Learn 0:06:13 Probing Electrodes Into a Living Brain 0:13:42 What a Single Neuron Actually Sounds Like 0:20:41 The Brain Is Not a Camera Plugged Into a Computer 0:24:55 How an Outfielder Catches a Ball Without Doing Physics 0:33:24 Why Federer "Lets the Cerebellum Run the Show" 0:38:09 Richard Dawkins Says Claude Might Be Conscious 0:39:11 Every Era Thinks the Brain Is Its Latest Gadget 0:42:36 Why AI Is "Eliza on Steroids" and 100% Illusion 0:45:38 The Mechanical…","meta_description":"Get Jenni, Your Intelligent Research Assistant (GIANT20 for 20% off): http://jenni.ai/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=inf&utm_campaign=thegiantssho…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6621,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-giants-shoulder-6943930/episodes/128-meet-the-neuroscientist-proving-scientists-got-conscious-ai-wrong/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-giants-shoulder-6943930/128-meet-the-neuroscientist-proving-scientists-got-conscious-ai-wrong.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}