{"podcast":{"title":"The French History Podcast","slug":"the-french-history-podcast-490285","podcast_index_feed_id":490285,"rss_url":"https://rss.introcast.io/1446181140/feeds.megaphone.fm/frenchhistory","website_url":"https://www.thefrenchhistorypodcast.com/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e4c0e5f2-675d-11ed-aa46-3b524f5a7ad7/image/NewItunesLogo1.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Gary Girod","episode_count":283,"summary":"A weekly history podcast that will cover France from 3 million years ago to present. 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