{"podcast":{"title":"The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan","slug":"the-foundr-podcast-with-nathan-chan-974008","podcast_index_feed_id":974008,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/YAP2464511803","website_url":"http://www.foundr.com","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a05eea46-5a0e-11ed-ad4d-7ba38e01bc89/image/ba743e807d05cc0b025845c0eaf7ee98.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Nathan Chan","episode_count":642,"summary":"Hear the stories, learn the proven methods, and accelerate your growth and future through entrepreneurship. Welcome to The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan. About the show: For over a decade, The Foundr Podcast with Nathan Chan has been a leading entrepreneurship podcast for open-book conversations with, by, and for founders. Whether you're starting, building, or dreaming about your business, The Foundr Podcast is where you can access experienced founders who've been in your shoes to learn their proven methods, lessons from failure, and inspirational stories. Past guests include Emma Grede, Mark Cuban, Neil Patel, Kendra Scott, Alex Hormozi, Trinny Woodall, Tim Ferriss, Sophia Amoruso, Simon Sinek, Tony Robbins, Amy Porterfield, Ed Mylett, Michelle Zatlyn, Reid Hoffman, Scooter Braun, Dany Garcia, Marc Lore, Ariana Huffington, Pat Flynn, Lewis Howes, Jordan Harbinger, and many more. About the host: Nathan Chan is the CEO of Foundr and the creator of The Foundr Podcast. Chan literally started from knowing nothing. He was just an average guy working in a 9-5 job he utterly hated. He knew nothing about entrepreneurship, nothing about startups, nothing about marketing, and nothing abou…","last_synced_at":"2026-07-23T02:19:36.248441+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foundr-podcast-with-nathan-chan-974008"},"episode":{"title":"654: The Hoodie That SAVED Their Business ($5M in 2 Years) | Boys Lie","slug":"654-the-hoodie-that-saved-their-business-5m-in-2-years-boys-lie","published_at":"2026-04-23T14:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foundr-podcast-with-nathan-chan-974008/654-the-hoodie-that-saved-their-business-5m-in-2-years-boys-lie","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foundr-podcast-with-nathan-chan-974008","url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/5DA136/traffic.megaphone.fm/FMPL2854713190.mp3?updated=1777410563","audio_url":"https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/chrt.fm/track/5DA136/traffic.megaphone.fm/FMPL2854713190.mp3?updated=1777410563","summary":"Tori Robinson and Leah O'Malley launched Boys Lie as a cosmetics brand with 16+ SKUs and generated $250,000 in revenue in year one—against $250,000 in debt. But they discovered customers only wanted the two branded hoodies, not the makeup. Sitting on mountains of unsold inventory and ready to quit, they sent a blind gift to Gigi Hadid. Two months later, Gigi stepped out in their \"Boys Lie Goodbye\" sweatsuit in a paparazzi moment during her breakup with Tyler Cameron. Demand exploded overnight. They pivoted entirely to apparel and never looked back. In this raw conversation, the co-founders of Boys Lie break down why they'll never do unsolicited celebrity gifting again despite it saving their business, the brutal employee embezzlement that cost them significantly and the financial controls they built to prevent it, and why they turned down a major buyout offer two years ago. What you'll learn in this interview: • How they launched with 16+ cosmetics SKUs but only sold two hoodies • Why they were ready to close shop before the Gigi Hadid moment changed everything • How they sent blind gifts to Gigi Hadid through personal connections at Coachella • Why they waited two months before Gigi wore their sweatsuit in a paparazzi moment • Their pivot from cosmetics to apparel after realizing clothing spoke for itself • Why they'll never do unsolicited celebrity gifting again—all gifting is now pre-approved • The brutal employee embezzlement that cost them a significant amount • How they now use three accountants cross-checking credit card reconciliation • Why they're jaded about hiring and don't trust people immediately anymore • Their long-term vision: House of Brands with sub-brands under Boys Lie • Why they turned down a major buyout offer two years ago • What's coming: Girls…","meta_description":"Tori Robinson and Leah O'Malley launched Boys Lie as a cosmetics brand with 16+ SKUs and generated $250,000 in revenue in year one—against $250,000 in deb…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3372,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-foundr-podcast-with-nathan-chan-974008/episodes/654-the-hoodie-that-saved-their-business-5m-in-2-years-boys-lie/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foundr-podcast-with-nathan-chan-974008/654-the-hoodie-that-saved-their-business-5m-in-2-years-boys-lie.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}