{"podcast":{"title":"The Forest School Podcast","slug":"the-forest-school-podcast-1141815","podcast_index_feed_id":1141815,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/3faf584/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.theforestschoolpodcast.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/567785/567785-1759568785576-d60f1cc966b6a.jpg","author":"Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden","episode_count":252,"summary":"Wem Southerden & Lewis Ames have run Forest School and training centre Children of the Forest since 2017. The Forest School Podcast was born when they wondered if their daily wafflechats and reflections about pedagogy, play and nature connection might be of interest to others. The podcast aims to inform and support educators, parents, outdoor and play practitioners and anyone interested in nature and the outdoors. Through book reviews – interviews with experts, practitioners and authors – sharing our experience as educators and business owners – deep dives on fascinating topics –","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T18:20:39.739581+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 247 - Intra-Relational Behaviour Support.","slug":"ep-247-intra-relational-behaviour-support","published_at":"2026-06-11T18:28:32+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815/ep-247-intra-relational-behaviour-support","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theforestschoolpodcast/episodes/Ep-247---Intra-Relational-Behaviour-Support-e3klpqb","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/3faf584/podcast/play/121349387/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-12%2F426030828-44100-2-2043a6d9bb136.mp3","summary":"What if the secret to better behaviour support in forest school isn't focusing on the child at all? Lewis and Wem are back for a wide-ranging, woodland-based chat that opens with lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven before diving into some genuinely rich territory: what does it actually mean to take an intraaction-based approach to behaviour? How do you move away from old-school \"fix the child\" thinking without sliding into permissiveness? And what can a day of interpretive dance, collective poetry, and drama research in Bristol teach us about forest school pedagogy? Plus: squirrels, rabbits round the fire pit, the Southwest FSA Gathering, tenon cutters, and Wem's mysterious single-name workshop listing at the national conference. Chapter Titles and Timestamps: 0:00 - Lime plaster, kilts, and a mosaic pizza oven 2:00 - Wearing messy, child-made things as a badge of honour 4:29 - Following up on Dr Wendy Russell: intraaction and behaviour support 6:54 - Old-school behaviour management vs. shifting what you can actually control 8:50 - The soup of a person: inner worlds, neuroplasticity, and fixed mindset language 14:20 - Persistent offering and not closing doors too early 17:53 - Is intraaction-based behaviour support just permissive? 20:02 - The communal cooking example: setting people up to succeed 22:27 - How loudly does John's sadness exist? On heterarchy and roles 26:07 - The Tangled Roots of Creative Research and Social Justice, Bristol 33:42 - The Conference of Trees and the value of cross-disciplinary spaces 35:49 - Space-setting intentions vs. ground rules: lessons from a research day 40:12 - The Southwest FSA Gathering at Hateford Woods 41:10 - Tenon cutters, turmeric dyeing, and beatboxing 44:29 - National conference plans, and Wem's workshop: Looking…","meta_description":"What if the secret to better behaviour support in forest school isn't focusing on the child at all? Lewis and Wem are back for a wide-ranging, woodland-ba…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2773,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815/episodes/ep-247-intra-relational-behaviour-support/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815/ep-247-intra-relational-behaviour-support.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}