{"podcast":{"title":"The Forest School Podcast","slug":"the-forest-school-podcast-1141815","podcast_index_feed_id":1141815,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/3faf584/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://www.theforestschoolpodcast.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/567785/567785-1759568785576-d60f1cc966b6a.jpg","author":"Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden","episode_count":252,"summary":"Wem Southerden & Lewis Ames have run Forest School and training centre Children of the Forest since 2017. The Forest School Podcast was born when they wondered if their daily wafflechats and reflections about pedagogy, play and nature connection might be of interest to others. The podcast aims to inform and support educators, parents, outdoor and play practitioners and anyone interested in nature and the outdoors. Through book reviews – interviews with experts, practitioners and authors – sharing our experience as educators and business owners – deep dives on fascinating topics –","last_synced_at":"2026-07-25T18:20:39.739581+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815"},"episode":{"title":"Ep 227 - Inconvenient Resilience","slug":"ep-227-inconvenient-resilience","published_at":"2025-08-29T11:53:23+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815/ep-227-inconvenient-resilience","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theforestschoolpodcast/episodes/Ep-227---Inconvenient-Resilience-e37fp3i","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/3faf584/podcast/play/107520562/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-7-29%2F406504546-44100-2-3b2f68856c6aa.mp3","summary":"In this warm, idea-packed episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Wem move from personal updates to a deep dive on resilience. Using Looby McNamara’s Cultural Emergence and Chris Johnstone’s framing, they explore recovery, adaptive, transformative, and spreading resilience. They challenge the “just power through” myth, contrast perseverance with true resilience, and look at how groups become more sustainable through transparency, shared roles, and flatter hierarchies. Expect practical examples from fire-lighting to policy writing, plus reflections on neurodivergence, school attendance narratives, and how adults can model resilience when there’s a supportive team around them. ⏱ Chapter Timings: 00:00 – Patreon intro and setting the scene for a busy month 01:39 – London “bird orchestra,” road trip vibes, and upcoming FSA plans 04:26 – What the FSA road shows are and why mini-conferences matter 06:03 – Workshop picks: coil baskets, nature connection, and “dangerous toys” 07:24 – A secret embargoed event, outfit chat, and Wem begins a PhD 10:28 – Four types of resilience via Looby McNamara and Chris Johnstone 12:53 – Oxford definitions: beyond “hardness” to bouncing and recovery 20:12 – Adaptive resilience vs perseverance: the fire-lighting example 22:42 – Community resilience: transparency, small teams, and avoiding burnout 41:54 – Modelling resilience, flatter hierarchies, and support networks 🌲 Keywords: Forest School resilience, Looby McNamara, Chris Johnstone, adaptive vs perseverance, community resilience, transparent roles, policies as pearls, neurodivergent perspectives, FSA road shows, outdoor learning practice 🔖 Hashtags: #ForestSchool #OutdoorEducation #Resilience #CommunityLearning 🌐 More Episodes & Support: Listen to more and access resources at ww…","meta_description":"In this warm, idea-packed episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Wem move from personal updates to a deep dive on resilience. Using Looby McNamar…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3155,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815/episodes/ep-227-inconvenient-resilience/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-forest-school-podcast-1141815/ep-227-inconvenient-resilience.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}