{"podcast":{"title":"The Foreign Affairs Interview","slug":"the-foreign-affairs-interview-5444628","podcast_index_feed_id":5444628,"rss_url":"https://feed.podbean.com/foreignaffairsmagazine/feed.xml","website_url":"https://www.foreignaffairs.com/","image_url":"https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13951093/FAI_Logo_2023.jpg","author":"Foreign Affairs Magazine","episode_count":100,"summary":"Foreign Affairs invites you to join its editor, Daniel Kurtz-Phelan, as he talks to influential thinkers and policymakers about the forces shaping the world. Whether the topic is the war in Ukraine, the United States’ competition with China, or the future of globalization, Foreign Affairs’ weekly podcast offers the kind of authoritative commentary and analysis that you can find in the magazine and on the website.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foreign-affairs-interview-5444628"},"episode":{"title":"Learning to Live With a Nuclear North Korea","slug":"learning-to-live-with-a-nuclear-north-korea","published_at":"2026-04-30T10:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foreign-affairs-interview-5444628/learning-to-live-with-a-nuclear-north-korea","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foreign-affairs-interview-5444628","url":"https://foreignaffairsmagazine.podbean.com/e/learning-to-live-with-a-nuclear-north-korea/","audio_url":"https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/jb8xzmeb5kpkqi84/260430_FAI_Victor_Cha_v26frf3.mp3","summary":"For most of the past few decades, North Korea was considered a top challenge for American foreign policy. In the past few years, however, it has mostly receded from attention—not because the U.S. approach to the problem succeeded but because it so completely failed. U.S. policy insisted that North Korea could never become a nuclear power, yet North Korea’s program has accelerated year by year, threatening not just American allies, but now the American homeland. U.S. policy aimed to isolate the Kim family’s totalitarian regime, yet the North Korean leadership has managed to skillfully navigate the new geopolitics, solidifying its rule and bolstering ties with both China and Russia. The commitment to pursuing nuclear weapons no matter the cost has looked especially savvy in the wake of U.S. attacks on Iran. Victor Cha has long been one of the foremost practitioners and analysts of U.S. policy toward North Korea. In a new essay for Foreign Affairs, he argues that Washington must reckon with this long record of failure and craft a new strategy for managing the North Korea problem, one that gives up for now on denuclearization and tries to achieve what Cha calls a cold peace. Editor Dan Kurtz-Phelan spoke to Cha on Monday, April 27, about the misjudgments at the heart of U.S. policy; about the nature of the North Korean threat today; and about what a new approach would mean for the United States, for the Korean peninsula, and for Asia more broadly in the years ahead. You can find sources, transcripts, and more episodes of The Foreign Affairs Interview at https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/foreign-affairs-interview.","meta_description":"For most of the past few decades, North Korea was considered a top challenge for American foreign policy. In the past few years, however, it has mostly re…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3872,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-foreign-affairs-interview-5444628/episodes/learning-to-live-with-a-nuclear-north-korea/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-foreign-affairs-interview-5444628/learning-to-live-with-a-nuclear-north-korea.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}