{"podcast":{"title":"The Exchange | Long-form interviews from the New Statesman","slug":"the-exchange-long-form-interviews-from-the-new-statesman-7519113","podcast_index_feed_id":7519113,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/68de580c52ddd4d4572281cb","website_url":"https://shows.acast.com/the-exchange","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/68de580c52ddd4d4572281cb/1771001878105-a9895cef-a462-4e44-a999-57cabb3c764a.jpeg","author":"New Statesman","episode_count":18,"summary":"Oli Dugmore and New Statesman journalists confront the most influential voices of our time in extended one-on-one interviews. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-10T18:17:46.353458+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-exchange-long-form-interviews-from-the-new-statesman-7519113"},"episode":{"title":"Mariana Mazzucato wants economists to rethink everything","slug":"mariana-mazzucato-wants-economists-to-rethink-everything","published_at":"2026-06-10T08:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-exchange-long-form-interviews-from-the-new-statesman-7519113/mariana-mazzucato-wants-economists-to-rethink-everything","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-exchange-long-form-interviews-from-the-new-statesman-7519113","url":"https://shows.acast.com/the-new-statesman-interview/episodes/mariana-mazzucato-wants-economists-to-rethink-everything","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68de580c52ddd4d4572281cb/e/6a2881f4a917ce4c7090cd1d/media.mp3","summary":"Mariana Mazzucato is one of the most influential economists of modern times. An avowed progressive, her ideas impact the lives of millions of people, from the United States to sub-Saharan Africa. She was directly consulted in the creation of Biden’s CHIPS Act, which is worth $280 billion. The World Bank’s Mission 300, is straight out of her book Mission Economy. Oli Dugmore sits down with her to discuss the hope for progressive change in our political and economic systems. The Common Good Economy: A New Compass by Mariana Mazzucato is out now (Allen Lane). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","meta_description":"Mariana Mazzucato is one of the most influential economists of modern times. An avowed progressive, her ideas impact the lives of millions of people, from…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3503,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-exchange-long-form-interviews-from-the-new-statesman-7519113/episodes/mariana-mazzucato-wants-economists-to-rethink-everything/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-exchange-long-form-interviews-from-the-new-statesman-7519113/mariana-mazzucato-wants-economists-to-rethink-everything.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}