{"podcast":{"title":"The Ex-Good Girl Podcast","slug":"the-ex-good-girl-podcast-6037423","podcast_index_feed_id":6037423,"rss_url":"https://feeds.captivate.fm/the-ex-good-girl-podcast/","website_url":"https://www.sarafisk.coach/","image_url":"https://artwork.captivate.fm/673f6d3e-dacd-455a-87e0-4e826e719884/50e75e53-731f-486a-8d06-7fac81a48c27.jpg","author":"Sara Bybee Fisk","episode_count":181,"summary":"Welcome to the Ex Good Girl Podcast! I’m Sara Bybee Fisk, the Stop People Pleasing Coach. If you feel exhausted from constant people pleasing and perfectionism, and you are ready to stop but you don’t know how, this podcast is for YOU! I will help you learn to stop making other people comfortable at your own expense. I can show you a roadmap you can use to train yourself to stop abandoning your own desires and let go of the fear of what others will think. If you are ready to stop pretending everything is fine, get out of the cycle of doubt, guilt, and resentment AND step into a life of power and freedom, I can help!","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T00:17:11.170347+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ex-good-girl-podcast-6037423"},"episode":{"title":"Episode 157 - Leaving Polygamy, Finding my Voice with Shirlee Draper","slug":"episode-157-leaving-polygamy-finding-my-voice-with-shirlee-draper","published_at":"2026-03-25T19:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ex-good-girl-podcast-6037423/episode-157-leaving-polygamy-finding-my-voice-with-shirlee-draper","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ex-good-girl-podcast-6037423","url":"https://www.sarafisk.coach/","audio_url":"https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/9ec4d6c9-42e1-420e-ba50-e1a0df9a2370.mp3","summary":"Today, I get to talk with someone whose story has stayed with me for years. Shirlee Draper grew up in a polygamist community that became more controlling and unsafe as time went on. With no money, no work history, and no support outside her community, she made the difficult decision to leave everything behind and start over. We discuss the tension between staying and knowing something isn’t right, and what it takes to start trusting yourself again. This conversation is not just about Shirlee’s journey—it’s about what can happen when women find their voice and their autonomy. Here’s what we cover: How Shirlee spent years saving money and quietly planning before she could leave What it means to choose the “least harmful option” when every choice feels like a betrayal Why we can’t understand other people’s choices without their experiences and context Why decision-making is something you have to learn after being told what to do your whole life What it looks like to help women build their own inner voice instead of replacing it with another authority Shirlee Draper was born and raised in “Short Creek.” After leaving the community, she obtained a Bachelor of Social Work and a Master of Public Administration. She has served in many capacities in the rebirth of her hometown, including facilitating the election of the first female mayor in 2017; opening a community health clinic in 2019; serving on the board of the UEP Trust and Short Creek Community Center; and part of the Collective Impact project aimed at community revitalization.She is employed as Deputy Director for Cherish Families, a social service nonprofit which helps people from polygamous backgrounds move from crisis to thriving. She specializes in bridging the population with mainstream society and provides educat…","meta_description":"Today, I get to talk with someone whose story has stayed with me for years. Shirlee Draper grew up in a polygamist community that became more controlling…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4738,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-ex-good-girl-podcast-6037423/episodes/episode-157-leaving-polygamy-finding-my-voice-with-shirlee-draper/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ex-good-girl-podcast-6037423/episode-157-leaving-polygamy-finding-my-voice-with-shirlee-draper.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}