{"podcast":{"title":"The Ethical Frontier","slug":"the-ethical-frontier-6723630","podcast_index_feed_id":6723630,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e94a01fc/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://chenphilosophy.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/39039415/39039415-1719326529397-3545b8127000a.jpg","author":"Jason Chen","episode_count":97,"summary":"Interviews about ethics and other interesting topics.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-14T06:21:22.727423+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ethical-frontier-6723630"},"episode":{"title":"#89 - Against Animal Domination | John Sanbonmatsu","slug":"89-against-animal-domination-john-sanbonmatsu","published_at":"2026-03-16T00:09:56+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ethical-frontier-6723630/89-against-animal-domination-john-sanbonmatsu","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ethical-frontier-6723630","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/theethicalfrontier/episodes/89---Against-Animal-Domination--John-Sanbonmatsu-e3gg93h","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/e94a01fc/podcast/play/116974129/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-16%2F420084408-44100-2-0675f16788643.mp3","summary":"You can support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/chenphilosophy John Sanbonmatsu is Professor of Philosophy at Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Massachusetts. Website: https://www.johnsanbonmatsu.com/ Book: https://nyupress.org/9781479825967/the-omnivores-deception/ Summary:In this interview, we discuss three deceptions surrounding our relationship to animals. The first one is that we believe it's morally okay to dominate animals because it's natural. The second deception is that we can treat animals morally by utilizing small-scale farms instead of factory farms. And the third deception is self-deception. Specifically, we lie to ourselves and intentionally turn a blind eye to the suffering of animals so we don't have to confront the fact that eating meat is wrong.","meta_description":"You can support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/chenphilosophy John Sanbonmatsu is Professor of Philosophy at Worcester Polytechnic Institute in Ma…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":3892,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-ethical-frontier-6723630/episodes/89-against-animal-domination-john-sanbonmatsu/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ethical-frontier-6723630/89-against-animal-domination-john-sanbonmatsu.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}