{"podcast":{"title":"The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica","slug":"the-data-exchange-with-ben-lorica","podcast_index_feed_id":1196000,"rss_url":"https://rss.buzzsprout.com/682433.rss","website_url":"https://thedataexchange.media/","image_url":"https://storage.buzzsprout.com/ljk0yj7r22pi61grsmelnsoa9084?.jpg","author":"Ben Lorica","episode_count":345,"summary":"A series of informal conversations with thought leaders, researchers, practitioners, and writers on a wide range of topics in technology, science, and of course big data, data science, artificial intelligence, and related applications. Anchored by Ben Lorica (@BigData), the Data Exchange also features a roundup of the most important stories from the worlds of data, machine learning and AI. Detailed show notes for each episode can be found on https://thedataexchange.media/ The Data Exchange podcast is a production of Gradient Flow [https://gradientflow.com/].","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-data-exchange-with-ben-lorica"},"episode":{"title":"The Rise of the Machine Identity: Securing the AI Workforce and AI Agents","slug":"the-rise-of-the-machine-identity-securing-the-ai-workforce-and-ai-agents","published_at":"2026-01-29T12:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-data-exchange-with-ben-lorica/the-rise-of-the-machine-identity-securing-the-ai-workforce-and-ai-agents","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-data-exchange-with-ben-lorica","url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/www.buzzsprout.com/682433/episodes/18547888-the-rise-of-the-machine-identity-securing-the-ai-workforce-and-ai-agents.mp3","audio_url":"https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/www.buzzsprout.com/682433/episodes/18547888-the-rise-of-the-machine-identity-securing-the-ai-workforce-and-ai-agents.mp3","summary":"AI agents represent a new class of identity that operates with unprecedented speed and scale, creating massive security blind spots. 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