{"podcast":{"title":"The Crypto Conversation","slug":"the-crypto-conversation-1035747","podcast_index_feed_id":1035747,"rss_url":"https://thecryptoconversation.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/podcasts","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/2/e/2/8/2e289ec556e51c0388c4a68c3ddbc4f2/crypto-conversation-pod-cover-20220331-sxhhnnq7bt.jpg","author":"Brave New Coin","episode_count":691,"summary":"Brave New Coin's Crypto Conversation talks to the key people creating the Bitcoin, blockchain, and cryptocurrency future. Hosted by Andy Pickering, learn how this rapidly evolving industry is reshaping the world as we move towards decentralized finance, NFTs and Web3.","last_synced_at":"2026-06-08T02:18:25.797085+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-crypto-conversation-1035747"},"episode":{"title":"Rootstock Labs – Beyond Digital Gold: Making Bitcoin Productive Collateral","slug":"rootstock-labs-beyond-digital-gold-making-bitcoin-productive-collateral","published_at":"2026-05-24T22:05:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-crypto-conversation-1035747/rootstock-labs-beyond-digital-gold-making-bitcoin-productive-collateral","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-crypto-conversation-1035747","url":"https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/podcasts","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/thecryptoconversation/rootstock.mp3?dest-id=1363583","summary":"Richard Green is Director of Institutional and Ecosystem at Rootstock Labs , a core contributor to Rootstock, the Bitcoin sidechain that has been quietly running for eight years and now anchors a growing slice of institutional Bitcoin DeFi. Based in London, Green came to crypto through fifteen years in traditional finance — a decade at Bloomberg working with banks and high-frequency trading desks, followed by a stint at Circle building out the European stablecoin business — before going further down the Bitcoin rabbit hole when emerging-market clients made clear they wanted something more than a dollar wrapper. Why you should listen Green's central argument is that the digital gold narrative, while true, is incomplete and increasingly expensive to leave unchallenged. There is roughly $260 billion in Bitcoin sitting idle on corporate treasuries, ETF balance sheets and miner books, paying 10 to 50 basis points a year in custody fees and earning nothing. That, he says, is what pristine collateral looks like when it has nowhere productive to go. Rootstock's pitch is to change the denominator: keep the security model of Bitcoin, but give holders the ability to borrow against their stack, run it through tokenized real-world asset vaults, or deploy it into native yield strategies without selling a single satoshi. The first product out of the new institutional unit, launching in the next month, is a Bitcoin-collateralized loan aimed squarely at miners who are sitting on inventory but still need to pay the power bill. The proof points are no longer theoretical. Mercado Bitcoin recently deployed $20 million of tokenized private credit on Rootstock, with a $100 million target by April, giving Bitcoin holders Brazilian receivables and corporate debt exposure they would otherwise s…","meta_description":"Richard Green is Director of Institutional and Ecosystem at Rootstock Labs , a core contributor to Rootstock, the Bitcoin sidechain that has been quietly…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1389,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-crypto-conversation-1035747/episodes/rootstock-labs-beyond-digital-gold-making-bitcoin-productive-collateral/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-crypto-conversation-1035747/rootstock-labs-beyond-digital-gold-making-bitcoin-productive-collateral.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}