{"podcast":{"title":"\"The Cognitive Revolution\" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis","slug":"the-cognitive-revolution","podcast_index_feed_id":6011783,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/RINTP3108857801","website_url":"https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/30f818da-c930-11ed-9b4b-1352ca96fb17/image/888e2c534b7c2534213c97e025646932.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Turpentine","episode_count":360,"summary":"A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co","last_synced_at":"2026-07-28T06:17:31.607737+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution"},"episode":{"title":"The God We Deserve: Nonzero's Robert Wright on AI as Humanity's Ultimate Test","slug":"the-god-we-deserve-nonzero-s-robert-wright-on-ai-as-humanity-s-ultimate-test","published_at":"2026-06-23T15:47:47+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution/the-god-we-deserve-nonzero-s-robert-wright-on-ai-as-humanity-s-ultimate-test","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution","url":"https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/the-god-we-deserve-nonzero-s-robert-wright-on-ai-as-humanity-s-ultimate-test/","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/1113/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/RINTP3427511350.mp3","summary":"Robert Wright of Nonzero joins Nathan to discuss The God Test, his argument that AI is humanity’s “God test” rather than just a technical challenge. They explore his evolutionary lens on deep learning, from training as selection to marketplace selection among models that may reward selectively honest, power-sensing, or deceptive agents. Wright connects those risks to the noosphere, US-China relations, cognitive empathy, and whether global coordination arrives deliberately or through a coercive singleton. The stakes are whether consumers, companies, and governments select for AIs that strengthen non-zero-sum cooperation or race toward systems that reflect and amplify our worst incentives. For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/the-god-we-deserve-nonzero-s-robert-wright-on-ai-as-humanity-s-ultimate-test/ Mercury: Command is Mercury’s new conversational interface, giving you natural-language access to your finances and helping you take actions within your existing permissions and approval policies. Visit https://mercury.com to learn more and apply online in minutes. Sponsor: Claude: Claude by Anthropic is an AI collaborator that understands your workflow and helps you tackle research, writing, coding, and organization with deep context. Get started with Claude and explore Claude Pro at https://claude.ai/tcr CHAPTERS: (00:00) About the Episode (04:23) Special Sponsor (06:10) Early AI encounters (18:36) Pretraining as evolution (Part 1) (19:50) Sponsor: Claude (21:42) Pretraining as evolution (Part 2) (32:19) Deceptive market pressures (41:13) Noosphere and directionality (51:02) Global brain choices (01:08:23) Designing wiser models (01:24:11) Reframing China relations (01:37:57) Building organic transparency (0…","meta_description":"Robert Wright of Nonzero joins Nathan to discuss The God Test, his argument that AI is humanity’s “God test” rather than just a technical challenge. They…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":8980,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-cognitive-revolution/episodes/the-god-we-deserve-nonzero-s-robert-wright-on-ai-as-humanity-s-ultimate-test/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution/the-god-we-deserve-nonzero-s-robert-wright-on-ai-as-humanity-s-ultimate-test.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}