{"podcast":{"title":"\"The Cognitive Revolution\"","slug":"the-cognitive-revolution","podcast_index_feed_id":6011783,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/RINTP3108857801","website_url":"https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/30f818da-c930-11ed-9b4b-1352ca96fb17/image/888e2c534b7c2534213c97e025646932.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Turpentine","episode_count":376,"summary":"A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co","last_synced_at":"2026-09-20T18:17:39.232965+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution"},"episode":{"title":"Nathan Goes to China #3: US-China Relations, the Art of the AI Deal & the Road to Pax Robotica","slug":"nathan-goes-to-china-3-us-china-relations-the-art-of-the-ai-deal-the-road-to-pax-robotica","published_at":"2026-09-10T20:15:44+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution/nathan-goes-to-china-3-us-china-relations-the-art-of-the-ai-deal-the-road-to-pax-robotica","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution","url":"https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/nathan-goes-to-china-3-us-china-relations-the-art-of-the-ai-deal-the-road-to-pax-robotica/","audio_url":"https://pdst.fm/e/mgln.ai/e/1113/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/RINTP4608235288.mp3","summary":"In this solo finale to his three-part series following two weeks in China, Nathan delivers a net assessment of Chinese AI capabilities and constraints ahead of dedicated US-China bilateral AI talks. He audits the impact of export controls, analyzes the perspective from Beijing, and outlines an actionable framework for a cooperative Pax Robotica. Nathan argues for joint compute initiatives, safety auditor standards, and conventions on autonomous weapons to keep tech trees entangled. Ultimately, he warns that pursuing an adversarial zero-sum race risks training frontier AI systems for conflict rather than the shared benefit of humanity. For full show notes, links, and references, read the episode page:https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/nathan-goes-to-china-3-us-china-relations-the-art-of-the-ai-deal-the-road-to-pax-robotica/ Sponsors: Deepgram Flux TTS: Deepgram Flux TTS is a streaming text-to-speech model built for voice agents with natural tone, context awareness, and interruption handling. Try it free until September 12 at https://deepgram.com/keep-talking Claude: Claude is the AI collaborator for problem solvers, helping with writing, coding, financial models, strategy, and more. Get started with Claude and explore Claude Pro at https://claude.ai/tcr CHAPTERS: (00:00) About the Episode (06:11) Episode intro and recap (08:56) The Pax Machina goal (12:32) The Anthropic worldview (Part 1) (16:50) Sponsors: Deepgram Flux TTS | Claude (18:55) The Anthropic worldview (Part 2) (18:56) Net assessment of China (32:26) China's eternal 1991 (44:03) History of Chinese AI (54:34) China's domestic constraints (01:07:09) Century of humiliation narrative (01:27:01) Signs of Chinese cooperation (01:42:38) American state capacity lessons (02:05:39) Evaluating AI export controls (02:27…","meta_description":"In this solo finale to his three-part series following two weeks in China, Nathan delivers a net assessment of Chinese AI capabilities and constraints ahe…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":11827,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-cognitive-revolution/episodes/nathan-goes-to-china-3-us-china-relations-the-art-of-the-ai-deal-the-road-to-pax-robotica/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution/nathan-goes-to-china-3-us-china-relations-the-art-of-the-ai-deal-the-road-to-pax-robotica.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}