{"podcast":{"title":"\"The Cognitive Revolution\" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis","slug":"the-cognitive-revolution","podcast_index_feed_id":6011783,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/RINTP3108857801","website_url":"https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/30f818da-c930-11ed-9b4b-1352ca96fb17/image/888e2c534b7c2534213c97e025646932.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Turpentine","episode_count":360,"summary":"A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. 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