{"podcast":{"title":"The CEO Retort with Tim El-Sheikh","slug":"the-ceo-retort-with-tim-el-sheikh-7053049","podcast_index_feed_id":7053049,"rss_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/f711e3e0/podcast/rss","website_url":"https://ceoretort.com","image_url":"https://d3t3ozftmdmh3i.cloudfront.net/staging/podcast_uploaded_nologo/41351448/41351448-1774183064160-f01334226310f.jpg","author":"Athmetric","episode_count":61,"summary":"Bringing real experts and forward-thinkers out of the clickbait shadows for greater knowledge, purpose, and performance. The CEO Retort is a thought-provoking podcast that features leading experts, entrepreneurs, authors, journalists, and thinkers scrutinising how science, business, health, politics, technology, and AI influence our lives. Hosted by Tim El-Sheikh — a serial deeptech and AI entrepreneur since 2002, one of the first-generation AI pioneers at Google Campus London, a biomedical scientist, and ex-pro athlete. He is currently at the frontier of human-centric Augmented Intelligence.","last_synced_at":null,"page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ceo-retort-with-tim-el-sheikh-7053049"},"episode":{"title":"New Stunning Evidence: Chimpanzees are more rational than humans! | Dr Hanna Schleihauf","slug":"new-stunning-evidence-chimpanzees-are-more-rational-than-humans-dr-hanna-schleihauf","published_at":"2026-03-19T16:41:10+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ceo-retort-with-tim-el-sheikh-7053049/new-stunning-evidence-chimpanzees-are-more-rational-than-humans-dr-hanna-schleihauf","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ceo-retort-with-tim-el-sheikh-7053049","url":"https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/ceoretort/episodes/New-Stunning-Evidence-Chimpanzees-are-more-rational-than-humans---Dr-Hanna-Schleihauf-e3gltbl","audio_url":"https://anchor.fm/s/f711e3e0/podcast/play/117158709/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-19%2F420341780-44100-2-3954a7f84bec6.mp3","summary":"Did you know that chimpanzees might be more rational than humans when making decisions? Dr Hanna Schleihauf led groundbreaking research, published in the prestigious journal Science, revealing that chimpanzees can evaluate the quality of evidence when making decisions, just like humans! Hanna is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Developmental Psychology at Utrecht University in the Netherlands. She is a developmental psychologist whose research explores the roots of human rationality and the socio-cognitive foundations of cultural learning. Hanna employs behavioural experiments, surveys, and interactive AI-based paradigms alongside eye tracking and functional near-infrared spectroscopy (fNIRS) to study rationality across development – from toddlers to adults. Join the conversation now, as we delve into human behaviours, AI, political ideologies and my own journey with narcissism as an ex-elite athlete! This discussion was truly outstanding! I suppose, as a scientist, I'm somewhat biased. Join our free newsletter to get notified for future live sessions: ⁠https://ceoretort.com/newsletter⁠ Support our independence by becoming a member: ⁠https://CEORetort.com/Support⁠ Timestamps: (00:00:00) – Preview (00:02:39) – Introduction to Hanna's research on chimpanzees and intelligence (00:05:24) – Explanation of overimitation in children and chimpanzees, and Hanna's collaboration with Jan Engelmann at Berkeley (00:11:45) - Exploration of epistemic defeaters in chimpanzees, their belief formation and reflective rationality (00:18:07) – Ad to help you focus with functional music! (00:20:36) – Discussion on social dynamics and rationality in chimpanzees and similarities with humans (00:28:40) – Copying trends and group beliefs in humans and chimpanzees – Why do we hold on…","meta_description":"Did you know that chimpanzees might be more rational than humans when making decisions? Dr Hanna Schleihauf led groundbreaking research, published in the…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6424,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-ceo-retort-with-tim-el-sheikh-7053049/episodes/new-stunning-evidence-chimpanzees-are-more-rational-than-humans-dr-hanna-schleihauf/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ceo-retort-with-tim-el-sheikh-7053049/new-stunning-evidence-chimpanzees-are-more-rational-than-humans-dr-hanna-schleihauf.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}