{"podcast":{"title":"The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast","slug":"the-carey-nieuwhof-leadership-podcast-2463234","podcast_index_feed_id":2463234,"rss_url":"https://careynieuwhof.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://careynieuwhof.libsyn.com/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/9/d/b/f/9dbff59be79a732416c3140a3186d450/Updated_CNLP_Thumbnail_-_Social_Square_-_1.jpg","author":"Carey Nieuwhof","episode_count":849,"summary":"The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business. Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst, Ian Morgan Cron and many more. 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In this conversation: the backlash, Billy Graham's original vision, how the magazine is advancing and speaking into a polarized world, and why leadership is designed to kill you. 🔗 Show Notes 🤖 AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life. Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes AI AND THE FUTURE CHURCH A world growing more artificial by the day is going to produce people starving for what's real. And the church has been answering that hunger for two thousand years. Carey's book, AI and the Future Church, walks you through three shifts every church needs to make now to be prepared for whatever change AI brings. Pre-order is open now. 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