{"podcast":{"title":"The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast","slug":"the-carey-nieuwhof-leadership-podcast-2463234","podcast_index_feed_id":2463234,"rss_url":"https://careynieuwhof.libsyn.com/rss","website_url":"http://careynieuwhof.libsyn.com/","image_url":"https://static.libsyn.com/p/assets/9/d/b/f/9dbff59be79a732416c3140a3186d450/Updated_CNLP_Thumbnail_-_Social_Square_-_1.jpg","author":"Carey Nieuwhof","episode_count":849,"summary":"The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast is a podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before—in your church or in your business. Carey interviews top business and church leaders like Seth Godin, Adam Grant, Nancy Duarte, Simon Sinek, Cal Newport, Patrick Lencioni, Tim Keller, Annie F. Downs, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Rob Pelinka, Michael Hyatt, Christine Caine, John Mark Comer, Henry Cloud, Gordon MacDonald, Francis Chan, Lysa TerKeurst, Ian Morgan Cron and many more. For insightful posts on leadership, change and personal growth, episode transcripts and podcast show notes, go to https://careynieuwhof.com/.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-23T20:18:57.410287+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-carey-nieuwhof-leadership-podcast-2463234"},"episode":{"title":"CNLP 782 | The Problem of Mini-Celebrity Pastors: Les McKeown on Growth Barriers for Church Leaders","slug":"cnlp-782-the-problem-of-mini-celebrity-pastors-les-mckeown-on-growth-barriers-for-church-leaders","published_at":"2026-01-29T10:05:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-carey-nieuwhof-leadership-podcast-2463234/cnlp-782-the-problem-of-mini-celebrity-pastors-les-mckeown-on-growth-barriers-for-church-leaders","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-carey-nieuwhof-leadership-podcast-2463234","url":"https://careynieuwhof.libsyn.com/cnlp-782-the-problem-of-mini-celebrity-pastors-les-mckeown-on-growth-barriers-for-church-leaders","audio_url":"https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/careynieuwhof/CNLP_782_With_Les-McKeown.mp3?dest-id=125406","summary":"Leadership expert Les McKeown talks about the rise of mini-celebrity pastors, the limits that places on church growth and team development, and how to overcome the growth barriers you're facing as church leaders. 🔗 Show Notes 📩 On The Rise Newsletter 🗣️ Preaching Cheat Sheet 🧠 The Art of Leadership Academy 🎥 Watch on YouTube Follow @careynieuwhof Follow @theartofleadershipnetwork ❗️Connect with other podcast listeners about each episode of my podcast, including me. You'll get exclusive insights by asking questions, sharing insights, and learning how others are applying the content in real life. Join for free: https://careynieuwhof.com/shownotes STATE OF THE CHURCH Learn more about the State of the Church and stay up to date on the latest data at stateofthechurch.com/Carey CHURCH LAW & TAX For nearly 40 years, the online Church & Clergy Tax Guide has been the go-to resource U.S. pastors trust to handle taxes with confidence. It's updated with the latest changes—including how to navigate the One Big Beautiful Bill Act—and now you can even ask Richie, their new AI assistant, to explain how it applies to your church WITHOUT the legal or tax jargon. Go to ChurchLawAndTax.com/carey to become a member and access the guide today. Brought to you by The Art of Leadership Network","meta_description":"Leadership expert Les McKeown talks about the rise of mini-celebrity pastors, the limits that places on church growth and team development, and how to ove…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":6027,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-carey-nieuwhof-leadership-podcast-2463234/episodes/cnlp-782-the-problem-of-mini-celebrity-pastors-les-mckeown-on-growth-barriers-for-church-leaders/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-carey-nieuwhof-leadership-podcast-2463234/cnlp-782-the-problem-of-mini-celebrity-pastors-les-mckeown-on-growth-barriers-for-church-leaders.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}