{"podcast":{"title":"The Business of Benefits Podcast","slug":"the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252","podcast_index_feed_id":6744252,"rss_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/show/6053731/episodes/feed","website_url":"https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast--6053731","image_url":"https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/3f4968159bb4676248d8c564cea163f6.jpg","author":"Hi Hello Labs Network","episode_count":84,"summary":"For decades, employers have been fed a lie: “There’s nothing you can do to control healthcare costs.” This couldn’t be further from the truth. The system is doing exactly what it was designed to do—profit off of HR, CFOs, and CEOs who believe that lie year after year.With 180 million Americans relying on employer-sponsored healthcare, it’s time to challenge the status quo. The Business of Benefits is your No BS, No Sales guide to the real solutions. No gimmicks—just the truth about how to take control, transform your benefits, and care for your most valuable asset: your people.Each episode dives deep into the data, exposing industry misalignments and inefficiencies that inflate costs while offering actionable strategies for designing financially sustainable, high-value benefits.Through eye-opening interviews with industry insiders, expert analysis, and real-world success stories, hosts Donovan and Chelsea pull back the curtain on the hidden flaws in the healthcare system. The result? An empowering roadmap for employers ready to break free from outdated models and unlock smarter, more sustainable benefits.If you’re tired of the same old sales pitch and ready to rethink benefits, re…","last_synced_at":"2026-07-30T22:18:04.175830+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252"},"episode":{"title":"69. Zero-Copay Generic Drugs & Six-Figure Savings w/ Trace Voshell","slug":"69-zero-copay-generic-drugs-six-figure-savings-w-trace-voshell","published_at":"2026-01-15T12:45:08+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/69-zero-copay-generic-drugs-six-figure-savings-w-trace-voshell","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252","url":"https://www.spreaker.com/episode/69-zero-copay-generic-drugs-six-figure-savings-w-trace-voshell--69447835","audio_url":"https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69447835/ep_71_trace_voshell_full_ep.mp3","summary":"In this episode of The Business of Benefits, host Donovan Ryckis sits down with Trace Voshell, Chief Revenue Officer at GoGoMeds, to expose one of the most overlooked cost drains in employer healthcare: generic drug inflation. While most employers focus on high-cost specialty medications, Trace reveals that generic drugs, covering 80-90% of employees on medication, are systematically overpriced by 30-60% through PBM spread pricing and hidden conflicts of interest. Trace pulls back the curtain on how PBMs profit twice (on adjudication and through ownership of mail order pharmacies), why brokers often block cost-saving solutions (hint: per-script kickbacks), and how employers can bypass these roadblocks even when they feel \"handcuffed\" to large carrier PBMs. With real case studies showing $45,000 to $140,000+ in annual savings, this episode proves that transparent cost-plus pharmacy pricing can deliver six-figure savings while offering employees zero-copay medications. What You'll Learn: - Why generic drugs represent the biggest overlooked savings opportunity in pharmacy benefits - How PBM \"spread pricing\" allows them to pocket the difference between what they charge you and what they pay pharmacies - The shocking conflict of interest: PBMs owning their own mail order pharmacies and profiting twice - Why brokers often block pharmacy savings solutions (per-script fees and backend compensation) - Real case studies: How a 70-employee shop saves $45K annually and larger groups save $130K-$140K+ - The difference between GoGoMeds and Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drug Company - How to bypass PBM roadblocks with direct-to-employer pharmacy arrangements - The vague PBM contract language that enables systematic overcharging (and how to spot it) - A 60-second ChatGPT hack to identify unfav…","meta_description":"In this episode of The Business of Benefits, host Donovan Ryckis sits down with Trace Voshell, Chief Revenue Officer at GoGoMeds, to expose one of the mos…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":1742,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/episodes/69-zero-copay-generic-drugs-six-figure-savings-w-trace-voshell/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-business-of-benefits-podcast-6744252/69-zero-copay-generic-drugs-six-figure-savings-w-trace-voshell.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}