{"podcast":{"title":"The Brownstone Show","slug":"the-brownstone-show-7686103","podcast_index_feed_id":7686103,"rss_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/792565/s/333552.rss","website_url":"https://substack.brownstone.org/s/the-brownstone-show","image_url":"https://substackcdn.com/feed/podcast/792565/s/333552/eaa471b6dc61ab7fe81e24577431f356.jpg","author":"Brownstone Institute","episode_count":26,"summary":"The Brownstone Show features creative thinkers on public health, medicine, economics, and technology, all making contributions to public understanding in times of dramatic transition.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-31T06:20:13.322692+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brownstone-show-7686103"},"episode":{"title":"The Brownstone Show - Episode 13 - Jan Jekielek","slug":"the-brownstone-show-episode-13-jan-jekielek","published_at":"2026-03-21T20:12:34+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brownstone-show-7686103/the-brownstone-show-episode-13-jan-jekielek","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brownstone-show-7686103","url":"https://substack.brownstone.org/p/the-brownstone-show-episode-13-jan","audio_url":"https://api.substack.com/feed/podcast/191702825/c7a0eb5d8ff9577b7316185afbe9c28d.mp3","summary":"In this powerful edition of The Brownstone Show, Jeffrey A. Tucker sits down with Jan Jekielek, Senior Editor at The Epoch Times and host of the acclaimed American Thought Leaders series, to discuss Jan’s explosive new book Killed to Order: China’s Organ Harvesting Industry and the True Nature of America’s Biggest Adversary (released March 2026). What begins as an investigation into one of the most horrifying and under-reported crimes of our time—forced organ harvesting in China—quickly expands into a profound exploration of the battle between individual human dignity and utilitarian ideology (the “greatest good for the greatest number,” no matter the human cost). Jeffrey and Jan trace how the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has industrialized organ procurement, often targeting prisoners of conscience (including Falun Gong practitioners, Uyghurs, Christians, and others), creating a chilling “kill-to-order” system sustained by coercion, secrecy, and global complicity. They connect these atrocities to broader philosophical and historical patterns: from Stalin’s infamous “you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet” mindset, to the rise of utilitarian bioethics that treats human beings as collections of parts rather than bearers of inherent rights. Key topics covered include: * The erosion of Hippocratic medicine (”do no harm”) in favor of collectivist “greater good” rationales seen during COVID and beyond * How communist regimes consistently justify mass atrocities in the name of party supremacy or societal progress * Parallels between China’s system and dangerous trends in Western societies: instrumentalization of the human person, shifting definitions of death, and technocratic control impulses * The role of propaganda in sustaining myths about communism and masking i…","meta_description":"In this powerful edition of The Brownstone Show, Jeffrey A. Tucker sits down with Jan Jekielek, Senior Editor at The Epoch Times and host of the acclaimed…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":4795,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-brownstone-show-7686103/episodes/the-brownstone-show-episode-13-jan-jekielek/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brownstone-show-7686103/the-brownstone-show-episode-13-jan-jekielek.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}