{"podcast":{"title":"The Brink","slug":"the-brink-7481910","podcast_index_feed_id":7481910,"rss_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/68bb49871af371182ae70db4","website_url":"https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/the-brink","image_url":"https://assets.pippa.io/shows/cover/1757104476134-28bd493d-5273-4cf0-9918-8a6d2148544c.jpeg","author":"The Brink","episode_count":57,"summary":"Welcome to your much-needed antidote to centrist dad podcasts. Presented by Daily Telegraph columnist and foreign correspondent Jake Wallis Simons and former parachute regiment officer and geopolitical analyst Andrew Fox, The Brink brings their wealth of real-life experience to bear upon the most important topics of the day, from Israel to immigration, Ukraine to Islamism, asylum hotels to the rise of Reform UK. With a host of stellar guests and an emphasis on common sense, Jake and Andrew explore what it will take to bring the West back from the brink. A podcast from the edge of what’s coming. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-17T06:17:52.521942+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brink-7481910"},"episode":{"title":"“You Can’t Even Debate This” UK’s Islamism Problem, with former ambassador to Saudi Sir John Jenkins","slug":"you-can-t-even-debate-this-uk-s-islamism-problem-with-former-ambassador-to-saudi-sir-john-jenkins","published_at":"2026-03-26T19:34:30+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brink-7481910/you-can-t-even-debate-this-uk-s-islamism-problem-with-former-ambassador-to-saudi-sir-john-jenkins","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brink-7481910","url":"https://shows.acast.com/the-brink/episodes/69c58a4688f1e8913214c6a6","audio_url":"https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68bb49871af371182ae70db4/e/69c58a4688f1e8913214c6a6/media.mp3","summary":"Watch the full uncut interview HERE: https://open.substack.com/pub/thebrinkpodcast/p/you-cant-even-debate-this-uks-islamism?r=63dafp&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true In this episode of The Brink, Andrew and Jake are joined by former British diplomat and intelligence expert John Jenkins for a deep dive into the influence of Islamism, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the growing challenges facing Britain and the West. The conversation begins with the controversy surrounding public religious displays in Britain, and whether questions around cultural dominance and the use of public space can still be debated openly. Jenkins argues that these are legitimate issues, but increasingly difficult to discuss without accusations shutting down the conversation. Drawing on his 2015 government review, he explains how Islamism differs from Islam, and why movements like the Muslim Brotherhood present a long-term ideological challenge to Western liberal democracies. The discussion explores how these ideas operate not just politically, but through social networks, charities, universities, and community structures. The episode also examines the concept of “creeping influence” within public life, from changing social norms to the role of identity and integration in Britain. Jenkins stresses that the problem is not simple or singular, but part of a broader ideological ecosystem that interacts with wider cultural and economic factors. Turning to foreign policy, the conversation shifts to Iran, with Jenkins arguing that Western governments have consistently misunderstood the nature of the regime. He critiques decades of policy shaped by wishful thinking, warning that Iran operates as a revolutionary state with global ambitions and deep links to militant networks…","meta_description":"Watch the full uncut interview HERE: https://open.substack.com/pub/thebrinkpodcast/p/you-cant-even-debate-this-uks-islamism?r=63dafp&utm_campaign=post…","key_points":[],"chapters":[],"topics":[],"duration_seconds":2761,"processing_state":"not_requested","actions":[{"name":"request_transcript","method":"POST","url":"https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-brink-7481910/episodes/you-can-t-even-debate-this-uk-s-islamism-problem-with-former-ambassador-to-saudi-sir-john-jenkins/transcription-requests","description":"Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode."},{"name":"read_markdown","method":"GET","url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-brink-7481910/you-can-t-even-debate-this-uk-s-islamism-problem-with-former-ambassador-to-saudi-sir-john-jenkins.md","description":"Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource."}]}}