{"podcast":{"title":"The Breadwinners Podcast","slug":"the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806","podcast_index_feed_id":7566806,"rss_url":"https://feeds.megaphone.fm/thebreadwinners","website_url":"https://thebreadwinners.co/","image_url":"https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/de2afeea-b8f8-11f0-afb4-dfc49638fbb1/image/30d33e19b529a190b2ab3ebdc10753e2.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress","author":"Alexis Contos","episode_count":32,"summary":"They say you can't have it all — that mothers must choose between ambition and presence. But what if we're asking the wrong question? On The Breadwinners Podcast, Alexis Contos redefines what it means to be a Breadwinner in modern culture, moving it far beyond the paycheck. Through raw, honest conversations with women like Morgan Zanotti (CEO of Primal Kitchen), Nicole Trunfio (CEO of Bumpsuit), and Eve Rodsky (Author of Fair Play & Find Your Unicorn Space), we explore what it really takes to bring financial richness, emotional richness, and systemic change to our families. This isn't about balance, it's about integration. Not perfection, but wholeness. Whether you're already navigating motherhood and career, building your empire before kids arrive, or reimagining what family leadership looks like, these conversations will challenge everything you've been told about what's possible. The Breadwinners: Where ambitious mothers aren't just earning a living, they're pioneering a new era for themselves, and everyone who comes next. Learn more at thebreadwinners.co.","last_synced_at":"2026-07-14T22:17:08.536044+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806"},"episode":{"title":"Your Kid's Boredom Matters More Than You Think - Lizzie Assa on Independent Play  | The Breadwinners Podcast","slug":"your-kid-s-boredom-matters-more-than-you-think-lizzie-assa-on-independent-play-the-breadwinners-podcast","published_at":"2026-07-07T11:00:00+00:00","page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806/your-kid-s-boredom-matters-more-than-you-think-lizzie-assa-on-independent-play-the-breadwinners-podcast","show_page_url":"https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-breadwinners-podcast-7566806","url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/WRTNB4207478776.mp3","audio_url":"https://traffic.megaphone.fm/WRTNB4207478776.mp3","summary":"Most parents think entertaining their kids is the job. Lizzie Assa says the real job is stepping back enough for kids to build the skill of playing independently. Lizzie Assa, founder of The Workspace for Children and author of But I'm Bored, joins The Breadwinners to break down what independent play actually is and why it's disappearing from modern childhood. Alexis and Lizzie get into the difference between a toy and a prompt, why a bored kid is a sign you're doing something right, and how to build independent play skills from toddlerhood through the teenage years. What you'll learn: We co-regulate our kids. When we're a calm presence, they can be one too, they just want to be in the same room as us The permission slip to do less: stepping back and saying less is what gives kids their lead back How to look at how your kid is most successful in play, and give them more of that instead of trying to fix how they play Why a bored kid is usually looking for connection, not an activity How to look at behavior through the lens of curiosity instead of discipline Why no kid is a bad kid, and what changes when you actually believe that Lizzie Assa is a former teacher with a master's degree in education and the founder of The Workspace for Children, a play-based parenting platform with nearly 300,000 followers on Instagram. She is the author of But I'm Bored and works with private clients to build independent play skills in kids of all ages. Join Lizzie’s community: https://www.workspaceforchildren.com/ Her Substack: The Workspace for Children Purchase Lizzie’s ‘But I’m Bored’ book ____________________________________ Join The Breadwinners community: Subscribe on Substack: Follow on Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Rate & review wherever you listen - it helps more women find th…","meta_description":"Most parents think entertaining their kids is the job. 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